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Re: Wolves, a good thing?
« Reply #150 on: June 04, 2016, 10:43:08 AM »
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Re: Wolves, a good thing?
« Reply #151 on: June 04, 2016, 10:47:00 AM »
Why is there exceptions for the big timber corps? Shouldn't the raffle tags and governor tags have exceptions too?? Grin
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Re: Wolves, a good thing?
« Reply #152 on: June 04, 2016, 10:55:38 AM »
Just the way the law got written.  For a while the dept was even selling permits to run cats in a few areas due to some of the wording.  I think that ended five years ago. 

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Re: Wolves, a good thing?
« Reply #153 on: June 04, 2016, 11:00:48 AM »
Just the way the law got written.  For a while the dept was even selling permits to run cats in a few areas due to some of the wording.  I think that ended five years ago.

There were cougar permits issued because the legislature passed a 5 year pilot cougar program due to so many cougar complaints in the state. When the 5 years was over the program was dropped by the legislature. WDFW made attempts to get the legislature to pass the program again but the attempts failed.
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Re: Wolves, a good thing?
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Re: Wolves, a good thing?
« Reply #155 on: June 08, 2016, 09:45:52 PM »
Is there a consensus on the wolf question?

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Re: Wolves, a good thing?
« Reply #156 on: June 08, 2016, 09:58:11 PM »
Still reading, 38 pages of threads takes a little while to read! Looks like I'm seven years behind in the discussion. A day after my post about writing your reps. I read a post by bearpaw saying the same thing! Only his post was in 2009.

I haven't been able to find any info on estimated predator numbers for most of the western states except for wolves, griz and humans.

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Re: Wolves, a good thing?
« Reply #157 on: June 08, 2016, 10:07:55 PM »
I wasn't writing specifically to you, but thanks for the update!

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Re: Wolves, a good thing?
« Reply #158 on: June 08, 2016, 10:10:29 PM »
I know, just saw the post and decided to respond.  ;)
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Re: Wolves, a good thing?
« Reply #159 on: June 09, 2016, 09:17:51 AM »
Do You Realize Now What You Have Done?

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Some of us realized what was coming long before it was done. Those extolling the virtue of returning wolves to the ecosystem are living in a Disney dreamland of denial and anthropomorphism. It's either that or they found and pursued the tool to destroy our hunting heritage, or both.
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Re: Wolves, a good thing?
« Reply #160 on: June 16, 2016, 07:02:33 PM »
I see some major problems with wolves in Idaho:

1. The wolves don't know they are part of game management. They eat more calves than adults and we don't know if those calves would have become record bulls. They can't be instructed to "do the right thing" and only target injured or weak adults. It's a myth that they always work in the best interest of the herd.

2. Not enough people hunt wolves, and for those that do the success rate isn't very high. It seems to be a similar problem that we have with bears and coyotes in Washington. Even if it is legal that doesn't mean we can depend on hunting to keep the numbers down and state-sponsored hunts will bring out rabid environmentalists. You could argue that the state can always lower the license cost but why hasn't our state done that for black bear? They clearly aren't trying to maximize elk and deer survival rates by controlling current predators. The last thing we want is to add more predators to the mix.

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Re: Wolves, a good thing?
« Reply #161 on: June 19, 2016, 04:18:12 AM »


2. Not enough people hunt wolves, and for those that do the success rate isn't very high. It seems to be a similar problem that we have with bears and coyotes in Washington. Even if it is legal that doesn't mean we can depend on hunting to keep the numbers down and state-sponsored hunts will bring out rabid environmentalists. You could argue that the state can always lower the license cost but why hasn't our state done that for black bear? They clearly aren't trying to maximize elk and deer survival rates by controlling current predators. The last thing we want is to add more predators to the mix.

Wa wont even give us a 2 bear limit on the east side.  Not only would it help check the population a little, it would increase their revenue.  Id buy a second bear tag.

 


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