AK vs AR (for a woods gun)

[Duckslayer89]

Seems like every AR at the rifle range always has some kind of issue people are trying to figure out. Even my buddy's colt we brought wouldn't feed without jamming every few shots. Just seems like AKs are known for more reliability

Most of the ARs I've encountered have had some kind of issue at one point in time.  Usually takes a little bit out of range time to figure it out.  Even other types of modern 'battle rifles' have had something happen.  Typically it is a new ammo, sticky lugs, gas port adjustment.  But pull out the AK or SKS and they seem to just work all the time--can't remember ever having any issue with either of those (even using drum mags in an AK never an issue).

I think the tight tolerances aren't very forgiving when it comes to reliability but it helps with accuracy

[grundy53]

I would go with an AR.

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[Thefisherman83]

Id keep the ar ,and just buy a 300 blackout barrel for 100 dollar.Theres alot more hunting ammo for it than ak ,and it get u to 150 yrd brush gun.all the mags ,everthing inter changes except barrel.I would look into it.

   .300BLK is equivalent to the 7.62x39.  Ammo is a little more expensive, but it puts deer down within reasonable ranges. 

[Cougartail]

Buy an old 30-30 lever gun and never look back. Slim, light weight, reasonably accurate, cheap ammo and plenty of "firepower".

I owned one and sold it.. biggest mistake ever!

[Special T]

It would be better to get a lever gun in the pistol cartridge you own. I thi k he has stated in the past he owns a 44mag.

[pianoman9701]

I would go with an AR.

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I would, too. The AK is more reliable in harsh environments for a lot of shooting. But for a "woods gun" (not sure what that entails), you don't need reliability for continuous fire. You're only going to need one or two shots at a time. In this case, I'd rather have the increased accuracy over the increased reliability. If you were talking about a home protection or close combat firearm that you wanted to be sure went "bang" every time you pulled the trigger, I'd go with an AK. One of my favorite videos:

[Duckslayer89]

I would go with an AR.

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I would, too. The AK is more reliable in harsh environments for a lot of shooting. But for a "woods gun" (not sure what that entails), you don't need reliability for continuous fire. You're only going to need one or two shots at a time. In this case, I'd rather have the increased accuracy over the increased reliability. If you were talking about a home protection or close combat firearm that you wanted to be sure went "bang" every time you pulled the trigger, I'd go with an AK. One of my favorite videos:

Every Isis fighters worst nightmare. Bacon flavored bullets flying

[jeepster]

Buy an old 30-30 lever gun and never look back. Slim, light weight, reasonably accurate, cheap ammo and plenty of "firepower".

I owned one and sold it.. biggest mistake ever!

Yeah I had a Winchester, I loved it, ended up giving it to my buddy's sister as a gift, didn't really have a choice on that one, got myself in a corner, and she wanted it, Id buy another 30/30 in a heartbeat,

But

Again, I have a .35rem Remington Game Master pump, a lever action Savage 99 in .300 sav, and a Rem 700 in 7mm mag, so the debate isn't about needing a deer rifle, as I have some fine deer rifles as is, it just happens to be that 7.62x39 is a cartridge that is legal to shoot an animal with (vs .223). I'm not wondering "should I get an Ak-47 for deer hunting?",  because the answer to that would be an obvious no. Let's just say if I were to go on a deer hunt, id grab my  Savage 99 without question...or my .35 or my 7mm or .50cal BP Kentucky, or my 12ga pump, or my 20ga sxs depending on where I was at, and what ammo I had on hand at the time.

So far the best answers are:

AK guys: get a AK

AR guys: swap out uppers

Which leads me back to my origional  question, AK vs AR for West side brush work, a general woods gun. Something that would be just as at home riding in the Jeep for off road excursions, home defence, camping, plinking... Just a go-to long gun that can be a do it all, general purpose utility rifle, that could also be capable.of legally taking an animal, say if the moment arose and that's what we had with us, but not used as a dedicated hunting device

[pianoman9701]

I would go with an AR.

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I would, too. The AK is more reliable in harsh environments for a lot of shooting. But for a "woods gun" (not sure what that entails), you don't need reliability for continuous fire. You're only going to need one or two shots at a time. In this case, I'd rather have the increased accuracy over the increased reliability. If you were talking about a home protection or close combat firearm that you wanted to be sure went "bang" every time you pulled the trigger, I'd go with an AK. One of my favorite videos:

Every Isis fighters worst nightmare. Bacon flavored bullets flying

Yeah, and with a Russian doing the firing. 

[JimmyHoffa]

Buy an old 30-30 lever gun and never look back. Slim, light weight, reasonably accurate, cheap ammo and plenty of "firepower".

I owned one and sold it.. biggest mistake ever!

Yeah I had a Winchester, I loved it, ended up giving it to my buddy's sister as a gift, didn't really have a choice on that one, got myself in a corner, and she wanted it, Id buy another 30/30 in a heartbeat,

But

Again, I have a .35rem Remington Game Master pump, a lever action Savage 99 in .300 sav, and a Rem 700 in 7mm mag, so the debate isn't about needing a deer rifle, as I have some fine deer rifles as is, it just happens to be that 7.62x39 is a cartridge that is legal to shoot an animal with (vs .223). I'm not wondering "should I get an Ak-47 for deer hunting?",  because the answer to that would be an obvious no. Let's just say if I were to go on a deer hunt, id grab my  Savage 99 without question...or my .35 or my 7mm or .50cal BP Kentucky, or my 12ga pump, or my 20ga sxs depending on where I was at, and what ammo I had on hand at the time.

So far the best answers are:

AK guys: get a AK

AR guys: swap out uppers

Which leads me back to my origional  question, AK vs AR for West side brush work, a general woods gun. Something that would be just as at home riding in the Jeep for off road excursions, home defence, camping, plinking... Just a go-to long gun that can be a do it all, general purpose utility rifle, that could also be capable.of legally taking an animal, say if the moment arose and that's what we had with us, but not used as a dedicated hunting device

I'd think AK would probably be best for what you describe.  Can you get one reasonably these days?  I thought with Obama's sanctions on Russia that supply dried up and prices soared.

[AWS]

One of these, any combination of birdshot, buckshot, slugs and the rifle barrel underneath and you have everything in the woods from grouse to grizzly covered.

1 oz of NP BB's at 40 yards.


Rifle , left, right and the rifle at 50 yards.



Just the rifle at 200 yards.



The perfect woods gun.

I have an AR and this is what I carry most of the time or jus a over/under 12ga/22 Highpower

50 yards with 1 1/4 ounce of NP BB's

[jeepster]

AK, wasr10, akm, anything of the AK family, cept norinco...

Not sure what's available, I just know it's now or never, November ain't that far away. Come November I might have problems even finding BBS for my bb gun

[Special T]

For a knock around truck gun its hard to beat an AK BUT they want an arm and a leg for one. For less $ you can get a new upper or as others have said a 300 blackout just needs a new barrel.

[magnanimous_j]

WASR-10's can be had for 650, Yugo's for closer to 700.

AK's are great, but they are a lot heavier than other options.

[hunter399]

Ive seen some ak hit really good at a 100 yards,and some that wont hit a barn at 100 yrd.And do want open site or really good soft point ammo for it is a little harder to find.fmj are everywhere but not good hunting ammo.Ther are alot of youtube you can watch on both calibers .I have both sks and ar in 300 blk ,when it comes to hunting i grab the ar better hunting ammo .and the ar you can go subsonic,and handload.