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Re: how to fix WA. OIL draw system
« Reply #210 on: June 14, 2016, 05:49:49 PM »
Perhaps reserve 20% of the permits for raffle at say $89 per species/area ( i.e huckleberry Any Moose)
This would increase wdfw revenues keeping them happy,  Still give Everyone a chance to draw ( albeit at 25% worse odds but 1:100 or 1:133 so what) and those that really want to pony up can increase their odds at a cost.   :dunno:  Maybe just another way to raise costs?


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Re: how to fix WA. OIL draw system
« Reply #211 on: June 14, 2016, 05:53:30 PM »
 :bdid: raising prices for everything? How about increasing permit numbers

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Re: how to fix WA. OIL draw system
« Reply #212 on: June 14, 2016, 06:04:15 PM »
How about just leaving it how it is? Why try to fix what isn't broken?

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Re: how to fix WA. OIL draw system
« Reply #213 on: June 14, 2016, 06:05:06 PM »
:bdid: raising prices for everything? How about increasing permit numbers
You can't increase tag numbers enough to affect the draw odds in any significant way without critically diminishing herd populations.
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Re: how to fix WA. OIL draw system
« Reply #214 on: June 14, 2016, 06:10:58 PM »
No complaints with the system leave it the way it is. But maybe I'm biased.  Ask me again next year!!!! :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: how to fix WA. OIL draw system
« Reply #215 on: June 14, 2016, 06:14:27 PM »
Perhaps reserve 20% of the permits for raffle at say $89 per species/area ( i.e huckleberry Any Moose)
This would increase wdfw revenues keeping them happy,  Still give Everyone a chance to draw ( albeit at 25% worse odds but 1:100 or 1:133 so what) and those that really want to pony up can increase their odds at a cost.   :dunno:  Maybe just another way to raise costs?
No more raffles! Keep it in random draws.

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Re: how to fix WA. OIL draw system
« Reply #216 on: June 14, 2016, 06:30:10 PM »
Perhaps reserve 20% of the permits for raffle at say $89 per species/area ( i.e huckleberry Any Moose)
This would increase wdfw revenues keeping them happy,  Still give Everyone a chance to draw ( albeit at 25% worse odds but 1:100 or 1:133 so what) and those that really want to pony up can increase their odds at a cost.   :dunno:  Maybe just another way to raise costs?
No more raffles! Keep it in random draws.

U sure? I heard there was a big raffle bull taken by yakima this year....  :chuckle:

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Re: how to fix WA. OIL draw system
« Reply #217 on: June 14, 2016, 06:33:46 PM »
how about if we take a poll if you could only apply for one permit a year where would you place your money
moose
sheep
elk
goat
deer
if you took away four species that would cut down on compotation for the few tags available 

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Re: how to fix WA. OIL draw system
« Reply #218 on: June 14, 2016, 06:35:09 PM »
:bdid: raising prices for everything? How about increasing permit numbers
You can't increase tag numbers enough to affect the draw odds in any significant way without critically diminishing herd populations.

That's where I respectfully disagree and think theres room for improvement....not with all species or areas obviously but every tag helps ! Even if it's something like a traditional archery tag (super low success rates) I think it's worth it to get creative and get more tags out there that the animals can support

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Re: how to fix WA. OIL draw system
« Reply #219 on: June 14, 2016, 06:50:10 PM »
When the state takes into account permits I know they consider lots of variables herd health, weapon, season, etc. But do they take into account permit participation?
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Re: how to fix WA. OIL draw system
« Reply #220 on: June 14, 2016, 07:48:34 PM »
How about just leaving it how it is? Why try to fix what isn't broken?

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Re: how to fix WA. OIL draw system
« Reply #221 on: June 14, 2016, 07:50:28 PM »
They could just get rid of the OIL System and just auction the quota of OIL tags when they auction the Gov. tag. :stirthepot: Maybe then the WDFW heads could get that well deserved raise in pay
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Re: how to fix WA. OIL draw system
« Reply #222 on: June 14, 2016, 08:04:21 PM »


From my perspective, the lard-ass that doesn't really care up until the point that he wins the OIL $6 draw absolutely doesn’t deserve it.  Myself and other guys absolutely deserve a chance.

Perhaps you could send wdfw a list of people you feel deserve OIL tags...everybody needs something to wipe their backside with. :rolleyes:


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Re: how to fix WA. OIL draw system
« Reply #223 on: June 17, 2016, 09:43:21 AM »
Under the fairest possible system, one of every OIL and quality permits would be reserved for lardass American-born citizen-applicants of Scottish-English-Swedish-Romanian-Cherokee heritage with at least six coronary artery stents.
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

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Re: how to fix WA. OIL draw system
« Reply #224 on: June 17, 2016, 09:46:56 AM »
When the state takes into account permits I know they consider lots of variables herd health, weapon, season, etc. But do they take into account permit participation?
Yes
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

 


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