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Re: AR's for the liberals
« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2016, 01:26:41 PM »
I just can't see why everyone is so enamored with with the AR-15 other than some one might ban them and they shoot fast.  I wasn't impressed with them in Vietnam and traded the one they gave me as fast as I could.  I'm still not impressed with one now that I own one, I won a very high end predator/Varmint AR-, match trigger, custom barrel, hand built with all the goodies.

They aren't particularly accurate in their basic form and you have to put a lot of money into them to make them shoot most of the shelf bolt guns have better triggers and more accurate for half the price.  My AR will shoot in the .5's, the bolt gun I won it with will shoot in the .3's at about 1/4 the cost. They are awkward to carry and not very well suited to shoot off the bench.  Too much penetration for home defense.  A decent urban battle weapon is about the only thing they are really good at.
mine shoots great and they are lightweight, durable and built better than the Vietnam era ones and they are just a blast and cheap to shoot
my grandpa always said "if it aint broke dont fix it"

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Re: AR's for the liberals
« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2016, 01:31:30 PM »
I agree they don't really serve a purpose for me either. I still own a couple and are fun to shoot but I much prefer to shoot my bolt guns. The main reason I own then is because I can.  :chuckle:
Some of the super high end customs built for lr are kinda cool but the horsepower leaves a lot to be desired imo
If someone wants one or more have at it. I won't try and talk anyone out of it.

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Re: AR's for the liberals
« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2016, 01:38:33 PM »
I don't have an AR and I don't have much desire for one.  That said, I want anyone who wants one, who is not a felon, to be able to walk into a gun shop and buy one. 
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Re: AR's for the liberals
« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2016, 01:38:40 PM »
The Flag Burning Collectivists not wanting me to have one is reason enough. If we continue to import Muslim terrorists at the current rate there could come a day when sports utility rifles need to find a home in your truck while out on the town, minding your own business.

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Re: AR's for the liberals
« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2016, 02:29:32 PM »
When I saw the title I totally expected I was going to see this:
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Re: AR's for the liberals
« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2016, 02:34:12 PM »
I agree they don't really serve a purpose for me either. I still own a couple and are fun to shoot but I much prefer to shoot my bolt guns. The main reason I own then is because I can.  :chuckle:
Some of the super high end customs built for lr are kinda cool but the horsepower leaves a lot to be desired imo
If someone wants one or more have at it. I won't try and talk anyone out of it.

You sound like you live in the country and don't have kids or women at home. I live in the city with my wife and when she's here, my daughter. We have home invasions on a regular basis around this town. An AR 15 is easy for a smaller framed person to use for defense than almost any other effective platform. For women and children, someone who is familiar with it and can shoot semi-accurately with it, knows how to load it and unload it, it's the perfect firearm for home defense because of the weight, lack of recoil, and effortless operation. Were I living in the country, it would still be a better defense platform than a bolt gun if someone decided your out-of-the-way place would make an excellent mark.
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Re: AR's for the liberals
« Reply #36 on: June 21, 2016, 02:42:50 PM »
I just bought an AR 47 today, its pretty sweet.

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Re: AR's for the liberals
« Reply #37 on: June 21, 2016, 02:55:07 PM »
I agree they don't really serve a purpose for me either. I still own a couple and are fun to shoot but I much prefer to shoot my bolt guns. The main reason I own then is because I can.  :chuckle:
Some of the super high end customs built for lr are kinda cool but the horsepower leaves a lot to be desired imo
If someone wants one or more have at it. I won't try and talk anyone out of it.

You sound like you live in the country and don't have kids or women at home. I live in the city with my wife and when she's here, my daughter. We have home invasions on a regular basis around this town. An AR 15 is easy for a smaller framed person to use for defense than almost any other effective platform. For women and children, someone who is familiar with it and can shoot semi-accurately with it, knows how to load it and unload it, it's the perfect firearm for home defense because of the weight, lack of recoil, and effortless operation. Were I living in the country, it would still be a better defense platform than a bolt gun if someone decided your out-of-the-way place would make an excellent mark.

^ That

Further, though the rounds DO go through walls, they're actually less lethal on the other side than 12ga buckshot.

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Re: AR's for the liberals
« Reply #38 on: June 21, 2016, 03:19:55 PM »
I bought one a couple of weeks ago,here in mexico{royal city wa} theft is almost expected..living here on the dry side has actually sickened me how bad theft is and how many employers use illegals and the amount of fraud we citizens pay for...I find living in the country that the AR is gonna be a useful tool if needed...Pride has left this area..

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Re: AR's for the liberals
« Reply #39 on: June 21, 2016, 03:32:08 PM »
I bought one a couple of weeks ago,here in mexico{royal city wa} theft is almost expected..living here on the dry side has actually sickened me how bad theft is and how many employers use illegals and the amount of fraud we citizens pay for...I find living in the country that the AR is gonna be a useful tool if needed...Pride has left this area..

Driving through Royal city and stopping at that gas station is more then enough for me. Go inside and watch my truck through the window and hope no one robs you at knife/gunpoint.

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Re: AR's for the liberals
« Reply #40 on: June 21, 2016, 05:21:43 PM »
I agree they don't really serve a purpose for me either. I still own a couple and are fun to shoot but I much prefer to shoot my bolt guns. The main reason I own then is because I can.  :chuckle:
Some of the super high end customs built for lr are kinda cool but the horsepower leaves a lot to be desired imo
If someone wants one or more have at it. I won't try and talk anyone out of it.

You sound like you live in the country and don't have kids or women at home. I live in the city with my wife and when she's here, my daughter. We have home invasions on a regular basis around this town. An AR 15 is easy for a smaller framed person to use for defense than almost any other effective platform. For women and children, someone who is familiar with it and can shoot semi-accurately with it, knows how to load it and unload it, it's the perfect firearm for home defense because of the weight, lack of recoil, and effortless operation. Were I living in the country, it would still be a better defense platform than a bolt gun if someone decided your out-of-the-way place would make an excellent mark.
completely understand and agree with that.  :tup:

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Re: AR's for the liberals
« Reply #41 on: June 21, 2016, 10:22:10 PM »
There is a local seller / builder in Auburn. They have some really nice equipment https://www.rainierarms.com/

Rainier builds some pretty nice rifles, but they are no different than ordering the parts yourself and putting it together (and you can save a bunch of money doing it yourself)

If you are looking for a top tier rifle that's ready to go id consider LaRue, GAP, JP and Nemo.

Or, if you can find him.......GunsmithX



I have contact info for Gunsmith X if anyone needs it.
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Gunsmith X is like Santa Claus; there's no convincing evidence that he exists but we all still believe. He can be found in the hearts and dreams of gun enthusiasts while they wait anxiously for a box of parts to arrive. Gunsmith X is the twinkle in the eye of a first time gun owner when he looks at his new AR and realizes that there's just something missing.

If you can't find Gunsmith X in your heart, then try reaching out to the right people. I'm sure there's a few of us who can get you in touch with him. :chuckle:

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Re: AR's for the liberals
« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2016, 07:09:15 AM »
I saw some ARs going for $500ish about six months ago. Not sure what they're going for now. Spend less, and buy ammo. Buy a lifetime supply of ammo.

:yeah:

Get what you can, while you can.  The AR glut may be at an end.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/278700-gun-store-sold-30000-ar-15s-after-orlando-attack/

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Re: AR's for the liberals
« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2016, 08:29:57 AM »
why are 6.5 grendel barrels so expensive?  :dunno:  I'm in the market and they're $100 more than any other caliber.  I'm about ready to just get a 300 blackout for my daughter to use this year deer hunting and find a grendel barrel later  :dunno:

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Re: AR's for the liberals
« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2016, 08:41:29 AM »
Look for a 6.5 lbc.

This explains why.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/03/26/264-lbc-ar-a-grendel-clone/

It is mostly because of an attempt to capitalize on the idea by trademarking the cartridge name.

 


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