Wdfw pitching license fee increase

[csaaphill]

Shakes head 

[Mxracer532]

Pretty sure they are trying to drive all the Sportsman and Women to another state. Damn LIBERTARDS!

[huntingfool7]

“If you decide you’re going to be a family that skis, it’s a big expense to do that. If you’re going to be a family that plays golf, it’s going to be a big expense to do that. If you’re a family whose form of recreation is hunting and fishing, it’s pretty expensive to do that,” Unsworth said.

“I expect some pushback,” he acknowledged. “We saw that with the game management advisory group the other day a little bit, but after we had good conversations with them, they all understand that it’s expensive to operate the kind of statewide program we do and produce the opportunities we do around the state.”

Should thank Unsworth for "producing the opportunities".     Should be fired for that line of thinking alone.

[jasnt]

Maybe if they didn't waste money on wolves like the $850,000 for that consultant, it would be easier to get behind fee increases. But the way things currently are, it seems like they should be reducing the prices.

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[Elkrunner]

It won't all pass. With legislation you aim high so you get something in the middle.

But remember the person who was supposed to save WDFW, Jim Unsworth, is the one leading this.....

What state do you think we live in?  I bet it passes.  They are always looking for more ways to screw us. 

[bigtex]

It won't all pass. With legislation you aim high so you get something in the middle.

But remember the person who was supposed to save WDFW, Jim Unsworth, is the one leading this.....

What state do you think we live in?  I bet it passes.  They are always looking for more ways to screw us.

I've spent a lot of time on legislation. Will 100% of this pass? In my opinion no. Will some of it? Likely.

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[bearpaw]

Maybe if they didn't waste money on wolves like the $850,000 for that consultant, it would be easier to get behind fee increases. But the way things currently are, it seems like they should be reducing the prices.

   I feel like they waste the money! I'm especially opposed to the automatic increase every two years!

[Bob33]

No one likes price increases but they are a reality in most products and services.

I remember $.249/gallon gasoline, $20,000 houses in the Seattle area being only for the “wealthy”, and $2 deer tags that were good all over the state with any hunting implement.

There are some things WDFW can control, and some they can’t.

There is certainly some waste, as there is in any business and in particular any government agency. Paying $850,000 for a consultant seems excessive. What could the state have got for less: would the wolf situation be even worse?

Fishing consumes more resources at WDFW than hunting; hunting is the step child.

When it comes down to it, every individual will need to decide if the cost to hunt in Washington is worth it. There are alternatives including hunting other states, not hunting at all, or taking up bowling.

I’m deeply concerned about the future of hunting, and cost increases will make it even more challenging to attract and retain hunters.

[bearpaw]

I can't see where the $850,000 attempt to shush hunters and ranchers has done anything to improve wolf impacts in NE WA. Our moose numbers are continuing to decline in impacted areas. I totally understand that prices must increase at some point for everything. WDFW needs to consider hunters a little more before I'm going to support a price increase. IDFG needed a price increase that I fully supported, however, IDFG certainly considers hunters much more than WDFW and is actively managing bear, cougar, and wolves to improve ungulate populations in impacted areas. We are slowly shifting more and more of our business into Idaho.

[Special T]

No one likes price increases but they are a reality in most products and services.

I remember $.249/gallon gasoline, $20,000 houses in the Seattle area being only for the “wealthy”, and $2 deer tags that were good all over the state with any hunting implement.

There are some things WDFW can control, and some they can’t.

There is certainly some waste, as there is in any business and in particular any government agency. Paying $850,000 for a consultant seems excessive. What could the state have got for less: would the wolf situation be even worse?

Fishing consumes more resources at WDFW than hunting; hunting is the step child.

When it comes down to it, every individual will need to decide if the cost to hunt in Washington is worth it. There are alternatives including hunting other states, not hunting at all, or taking up bowling.

I’m deeply concerned about the future of hunting, and cost increases will make it even more challenging to attract and retain hunters.

Im glad you realize that there are alternatives and wish the wdfw did also. Unsworth mentioned family activities cost money and compared hunti g to skiing. In some ways i agree, and dont feel its all about the $. No one likes to feel like they are taken for granted in any business. The wdfw hasnt done a very good job of taking care of thier customers. Not a surprise that people are sitting at home playing video games instead of supporting them.

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[JimmyHoffa]

No one likes price increases but they are a reality in most products and services.

I remember $.249/gallon gasoline, $20,000 houses in the Seattle area being only for the “wealthy”, and $2 deer tags that were good all over the state with any hunting implement.

There are some things WDFW can control, and some they can’t.

There is certainly some waste, as there is in any business and in particular any government agency. Paying $850,000 for a consultant seems excessive. What could the state have got for less: would the wolf situation be even worse?

Fishing consumes more resources at WDFW than hunting; hunting is the step child.

When it comes down to it, every individual will need to decide if the cost to hunt in Washington is worth it. There are alternatives including hunting other states, not hunting at all, or taking up bowling.

I’m deeply concerned about the future of hunting, and cost increases will make it even more challenging to attract and retain hunters.

Im glad you realize that there are alternatives and wish the wdfw did also. Unsworth mentioned family activities cost money and compared hunti g to skiing. In some ways i agree, and dont feel its all about the $. No one likes to feel like they are taken for granted in any business. The wdfw hasnt done a very good job of taking care of thier customers. Not a surprise that people are sitting at home playing video games instead of supporting them.

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Years ago one of the sporting good store owners told me that the way this state/WDFW is headed, they basically just want you to pick one or two things for your outdoor recreation.  With all the expense and overlap/concurrent start dates people kind of pick their favorites to stick with. 

[trophyhunt]

I can't see where the $850,000 attempt to shush hunters and ranchers has done anything to improve wolf impacts in NE WA. Our moose numbers are continuing to decline in impacted areas. I totally understand that prices must increase at some point for everything. WDFW needs to consider hunters a little more before I'm going to support a price increase. IDFG needed a price increase that I fully supported, however, IDFG certainly considers hunters much more than WDFW and is actively managing bear, cougar, and wolves to improve ungulate populations in impacted areas. We are slowly shifting more and more of our business into Idaho.

The problem is, I bet a lot of Wdfw employees and biologist are more anti hunters than compared to Idfg. 

[Special T]

JimmyH peoples recreation used to be more varied. I belive the increase in cost plays a huge role in that trend going away. A price increase wouldnt be so bad if there was value. People are willing to pay more for good experiences but feel gouged when charged a premium and get nothing to show for it.

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[trophyhunt]

JimmyH peoples recreation used to be more varied. I belive the increase in cost plays a huge role in that trend going away. A price increase wouldnt be so bad if there was value. People are willing to pay more for good experiences but feel gouged when charged a premium and get nothing to show for it.

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exactly!  Idaho raising prices doesn't get to me that much because they offer a better product in the woods!

[mdbuck5x5]

I think everybody agrees (or possibly not) that price increases are just a way of life. Everything goes up over time and that's understandable. The problem is the steep hikes in prices. When we spend more for something we expect to get value for our money. IMO we aren't getting that value so it's hard to be ok with paying these crazy increases. This state could be world class for hunting and fishing rivaled by none but our game department is holding us back from having that! Very frustrating!