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Collared Cougars
« on: June 27, 2016, 06:09:32 PM »
So I checked my game camera on Sunday and got a nice little surprise on it.  I thought I would share it.  Anyone know much about cougars that are collared?  Can you shoot them?

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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2016, 06:15:36 PM »
No law against shooting marked animals during a legal hunting season.  Most hunters would not even notice the collar until it was down.

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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2016, 06:19:25 PM »
Awesome photo!

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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2016, 06:20:13 PM »
  Looks like a female with last years kitten, no law against shooting a collared cat, but shooting a big tom would be one worth mounting, a friend shot a big male that was collared a few years ago that had a collar and tag attached stating don't consume the meat as it had just been collared.

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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2016, 06:54:55 PM »
When I shot my cat a couple years ago I found out it had a collar that was put on by the skokomish tribe. My buddy knew one of the guys who had collared the cat so we met up with him and gave the collar back. I guess they are pretty expensive so if you do shoot on with a collar I'm sure they would like to get them back. I contacted wdfw as far as the meat was concerned. They told me that it was safe to eat. I guess the tranquilizer they use needs a certain amount of time to work it's way out of their system. If it's not out of their system it makes the meat unsafe to eat.
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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2016, 07:14:23 PM »
This is all very good info.  Thanks guys.  I have a lot of bear and bucks on cam also.  I am excited for August 1st bear opener.
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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2016, 07:29:10 PM »
Do any of you guys do a preffered calling sequence for cougars?
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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2016, 07:29:19 PM »
It is illegal to kill spotted kittens or cougars accompanied by spotted kittens.  That cougar is off limits for a while until the little one grows up

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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2016, 07:54:27 PM »
Cool pic! :tup:
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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2016, 08:02:30 PM »
It is illegal to kill spotted kittens or cougars accompanied by spotted kittens.  That cougar is off limits for a while until the little one grows up

What spotted kitten?

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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2016, 08:32:26 PM »
It is illegal to kill spotted kittens or cougars accompanied by spotted kittens.  That cougar is off limits for a while until the little one grows up

What spotted kitten?

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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2016, 08:35:48 PM »
I can make out some extremely faint spots on that cat.  I doubt you would notice them in real time while hunting.

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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2016, 08:37:01 PM »
It would fall on the older side of being a kitten.  Many would call it a juvenile.  Mostly some baring in the picture.

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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2016, 08:39:45 PM »
  Looks like a female with last years kitten, no law against shooting a collared cat, but shooting a big tom would be one worth mounting, a friend shot a big male that was collared a few years ago that had a collar and tag attached stating don't consume the meat as it had just been collared.
I shot a collared/ear tagged Cow Elk a few years ago. WDFW has an online system where you punch in the tag number, and it tells you when it was tagged and the "safe to eat" date. Like was mentioned, it needs a certain amount of time to work out of their system.

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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2016, 08:41:32 PM »
It is illegal to kill spotted kittens or cougars accompanied by spotted kittens.  That cougar is off limits for a while until the little one grows up

What spotted kitten?

Have you had your eyes checked lately?

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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2016, 08:41:42 PM »
If it's not safe to eat do you get another tag?
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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2016, 09:15:06 PM »
If it's not safe to eat do you get another tag?
Not sure. My cow was past the date so it was safe to eat.

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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2016, 09:45:56 PM »
I see spots all over the back cat...
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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2016, 10:39:21 PM »
Spots.

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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2016, 12:57:55 PM »
If you take that cat to get sealed, you're going to lose it and get a fat ticket.

ANY spots, on the underside and insides of the legs would count to make a subadult cat illegal.

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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2016, 07:01:50 PM »
Yeah you may need glasses,  that thing is covered in spots. Don't hunt any true spike only units until the eyes are checked :)

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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2016, 08:54:57 PM »
Looks like the girl they collared at my place. I'll never call WDFW again. Hunt her down and kill her!
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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2016, 08:59:44 PM »
Spots.



That's a bobcat.  :sry:





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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2016, 03:55:37 PM »
Not that it should not be shot! but clearly spotted, have to wait on that one

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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2016, 04:20:47 PM »
Spots.



That's a bobcat.  :sry:





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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2016, 04:26:57 PM »
Spots.



That's a bobcat.  :sry:





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Tails too long.  THIS is clearly a bobcat  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2016, 05:12:45 PM »
Spots.



That's a bobcat.  :sry:





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Tails too long.  THIS is clearly a bobcat  :rolleyes:

Awe the rare long nose, and eared bobcat. Nice :chuckle:
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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2016, 12:16:59 AM »
 :chuckle:  :chuckle: When I first joined this site I remember a hilarious post containing a picture of a "bobcat" sitting on a road.  Seems like a good time to resurrect that thread  :chuckle:  :chuckle:

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« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2016, 06:14:03 AM »
:chuckle:  :chuckle: When I first joined this site I remember a hilarious post containing a picture of a "bobcat" sitting on a road.  Seems like a good time to resurrect that thread  :chuckle:  :chuckle:

It's only a memory at this point.  Someone took a page out of Hillary's play book and deleted it.  Not even the Federal Bureau of cover ups could resurrect it.

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« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2016, 07:25:31 AM »
:chuckle:  :chuckle: When I first joined this site I remember a hilarious post containing a picture of a "bobcat" sitting on a road.  Seems like a good time to resurrect that thread  :chuckle:  :chuckle:

It's only a memory at this point.  Someone took a page out of Hillary's play book and deleted it.  Not even the Federal Bureau of cover ups could resurrect it.

I still have the picture.
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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2016, 07:43:24 AM »

:chuckle:  :chuckle: When I first joined this site I remember a hilarious post containing a picture of a "bobcat" sitting on a road.  Seems like a good time to resurrect that thread  :chuckle:  :chuckle:

It's only a memory at this point.  Someone took a page out of Hillary's play book and deleted it.  Not even the Federal Bureau of cover ups could resurrect it.

I still have the picture.

Prove it! :chuckle:
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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2016, 07:45:17 AM »

:chuckle:  :chuckle: When I first joined this site I remember a hilarious post containing a picture of a "bobcat" sitting on a road.  Seems like a good time to resurrect that thread  :chuckle:  :chuckle:

It's only a memory at this point.  Someone took a page out of Hillary's play book and deleted it.  Not even the Federal Bureau of cover ups could resurrect it.

I still have the picture.

Prove it! :chuckle:
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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2016, 08:41:42 AM »
This is a bobcat.



FWIW on topic, some young adult cougars still have small or faint spots on the inside of upper legs long after they are on their own away from the mother.  You might notice them on a treed cat but not likely on a called one.  Anybody know how the game dept. rules on such animals?




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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2016, 08:56:21 AM »
This is a bobcat.



FWIW on topic, some young adult cougars still have small or faint spots on the inside of upper legs long after they are on their own away from the mother.  You might notice them on a treed cat but not likely on a called one.  Anybody know how the game dept. rules on such animals?




There are two elements top consider: spotted and kitten.  A kitten is significantly smaller than an adult.  The guidance in the pamphlet (usually <80lbs) is awfully conservative, as that weight overlaps with adult female weight too.  I have sealed quite a few cougars when I worked for WDFW, and there was never an issue of trying to discern faint residual spots; they are frequently present on individuals up to 2 years of age.  I have only seen one citation issued for taking a kitten (in Wyoming) - that cat was approximately 3 months old, less than 4' nose to tail, had distinct dark spots and a skull the size of a baseball.
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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2016, 09:20:16 AM »
Doublelung, thank you.  Very clear reply and fits common sense reality. 

FWIW on weights, my son killed a 6 year old healthy female in western WA that weighed 88 lbs. and a friend in Canada killed an emaciated female on Vancouver Island that weighed 60 lbs.  Not sure of its age but it was an adult with no spots. 


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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2016, 11:37:02 AM »
:chuckle:  :chuckle: When I first joined this site I remember a hilarious post containing a picture of a "bobcat" sitting on a road.  Seems like a good time to resurrect that thread  :chuckle:  :chuckle:

It's only a memory at this point.  Someone took a page out of Hillary's play book and deleted it.  Not even the Federal Bureau of cover ups could resurrect it.

I still have the picture.


I also have it saved.  Lol. It's just not the same without the thread though...

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« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2016, 02:12:05 PM »

:chuckle:  :chuckle: When I first joined this site I remember a hilarious post containing a picture of a "bobcat" sitting on a road.  Seems like a good time to resurrect that thread  :chuckle:  :chuckle:

It's only a memory at this point.  Someone took a page out of Hillary's play book and deleted it.  Not even the Federal Bureau of cover ups could resurrect it.

I still have the picture.

Prove it! :chuckle:

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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2016, 02:15:11 PM »
geez anytime they will probably be "offdahook" post too
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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2016, 02:48:32 PM »
Now that's a bobcat!!! Awesome Jackelope! :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2016, 04:10:05 PM »
Now that's a bobcat!!! Awesome Jackelope! :chuckle: :chuckle:

That is no more bobcat than this is a bobcat and yes I have experience w/someone who swore that there was a bobcat in his back yard (short face/bobbed tail/pointy ears/blotchy color) and it turned out the bobcat looked quite like this one: 

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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2016, 04:59:07 PM »

:chuckle:  :chuckle: When I first joined this site I remember a hilarious post containing a picture of a "bobcat" sitting on a road.  Seems like a good time to resurrect that thread  :chuckle:  :chuckle:

It's only a memory at this point.  Someone took a page out of Hillary's play book and deleted it.  Not even the Federal Bureau of cover ups could resurrect it.

I still have the picture.

Prove it! :chuckle:


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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2016, 05:10:09 PM »
Now that's a bobcat!!! Awesome Jackelope! :chuckle: :chuckle:

That is no more bobcat than this is a bobcat and yes I have experience w/someone who swore that there was a bobcat in his back yard (short face/bobbed tail/pointy ears/blotchy color) and it turned out the bobcat looked quite like this one: 

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« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2016, 06:09:16 PM »
There was a specialist that reviewed the pic...   Lol

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Re: Collared Cougars
« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2016, 05:20:18 PM »
Thanks for putting up the pic !!!  That thread was awesome.   :chuckle: :chuckle:

 


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