High Buck...ALW, Glacier Peaks, or.....?

[Tbob]

I was the newbie bumbling idiot in the back country for a few years.. I had to learn somehow. If I'd have read a few of these posts before I went out, I may have said, screw it! I don't want to be out with these people anyways. Did I walk into my spot in the dark, yes! Was my body so tired from the hike I slept in opening morning? Yes! Did I screw things up for myself? Yes! Did I screw things up for another Hunter posibbly? Probably! But guess what? That's called "LEARNING". We all weren't so lucky to grow up in hunting families and have our dads teach us from an early age how to hunt. Or even be in the backcountry for that matter. I just don't understand how these "claimed" wilderness areas work? I mean, I don't want to hunt where there's a bunch of other people, but if a guy wants to put his camp a hundred yards from mine and hunt the same area, guess what? He's more than welcome. Guess what? If I don't like it, I can leave. It's PUBLIC LAND!
    So maybe there should be an "are you harcore enough" test to hunt the backcountry?!?! No wonder why hunting is dying a slow death!
    If I see a new guy "bumbling" around the woods trying to learn the backcountry ropes, instead of being a D$&k, I would rather offer some helpful advise that might make things a little easier on him or her. It's hunting people not brain surgery!
    I've had many a run in with other hunters in the backcountry, most are good and people are nice, but then there's the "entitled/elite" guys who think because they scouted "my spot" for a year that they are entitled and I should leave.. Ha! Nice try! Now I'm gonna be a D$&k on purpose! I'm not gonna starve if I don't shoot a buck ya know! So Yep, if you're that guy and you hear some sweet blues harmonica while I'm glassing the same basin as you..... That's me! :-) enjoy the woods all! And let's all try and play nice!

[Eric M]

GoHunt had a video on YouTube recently where a couple of guys hiked into the middle of nowhere glassed up a nice buck and then some elk hunters went running through their basin chasing. It's called "Bowhunting at 12,000 feet". Here's the link-

[luvmystang67]

GoHunt had a video on YouTube recently where a couple of guys hiked into the middle of nowhere glassed up a nice buck and then some elk hunters went running through their basin chasing. It's called "Bowhunting at 12,000 feet".

Cool video... too bad they didn't find the buck. 

According to this forum, they should've never been there to begin with though, having never scouted it before.  The elk hunters probably had their hunts screwed up by those stupid deer hunters who hadn't ever scouted.   

Who is in the wrong here?

[jackelope]

So if you're sitting on a ridge in the cover of some brush and you're glassing a basin, and 2 hunters walk through said basin, is that the fault of the 2 dudes who walked into your basin? Does that make them bumbling newbies? Or does that make them just 2 dudes walking through the mountains doing the same thing as you're doing who didn't know you were there and didn't realize they were screwing anything up?
I just want to make sure I'm clear the next time I'm only 7 miles from the truck and the real hunters are 15 and some newbie bumbling idiot screws me up.

[luvmystang67]

I'm the only hunter entitled to be wherever I am in the high country.

Everyone else is a bumbling idiot.

You've probably experienced... you are with a buddy looking at someone else hunting and you say "look at those idiots over there" or "what are those morons doing".  There's a good chance that someone else is watching you and your buddy saying the same thing at the same time.

No one ever: "Look at those brilliant hunters over there, they're totally doing the most intelligent thing ever."

We're all idiots to someone.

[Bushcraft]

I was the newbie bumbling idiot in the back country for a few years.. I had to learn somehow. If I'd have read a few of these posts before I went out, I may have said, screw it! I don't want to be out with these people anyways. Did I walk into my spot in the dark, yes! Was my body so tired from the hike I slept in opening morning? Yes! Did I screw things up for myself? Yes! Did I screw things up for another Hunter posibbly? Probably! But guess what? That's called "LEARNING". We all weren't so lucky to grow up in hunting families and have our dads teach us from an early age how to hunt. Or even be in the backcountry for that matter. I just don't understand how these "claimed" wilderness areas work? I mean, I don't want to hunt where there's a bunch of other people, but if a guy wants to put his camp a hundred yards from mine and hunt the same area, guess what? He's more than welcome. Guess what? If I don't like it, I can leave. It's PUBLIC LAND!
    So maybe there should be an "are you harcore enough" test to hunt the backcountry?!?! No wonder why hunting is dying a slow death!
    If I see a new guy "bumbling" around the woods trying to learn the backcountry ropes, instead of being a D$&k, I would rather offer some helpful advise that might make things a little easier on him or her. It's hunting people not brain surgery!
    I've had many a run in with other hunters in the backcountry, most are good and people are nice, but then there's the "entitled/elite" guys who think because they scouted "my spot" for a year that they are entitled and I should leave.. Ha! Nice try! Now I'm gonna be a D$&k on purpose! I'm not gonna starve if I don't shoot a buck ya know! So Yep, if you're that guy and you hear some sweet blues harmonica while I'm glassing the same basin as you..... That's me! :-) enjoy the woods all! And let's all try and play nice!

We were all newbies at some point, but that's entirely beside the point.

The point...again...is that it is a disservice to recommend to people that are new to the High Hunt that high mileage is the answer for getting away from crowds.  It's not. That advice is patently absurd since every single one of those far flung basins in the ALW and GPW areas already have people that hunt them.  So, why encourage someone new to the High Hunt to do something that is simply going to set them and others up for failure?  It's nonsensical and disrespectful to everyone concerned.  There is no "claim" per se since it's public land, but there are elements of basic common sense and gentlemanly respect for others that should be considered before encouraging a newbie or someone new to the High Hunt to go somewhere.

A big part of the allure of hunting the wilderness areas for most folks is not seeing or running into other people. If you know someone else is already going to be there...don't go there.  Seems pretty straightforward to me.  If you get there and find out that others are already there, either go someplace else or if that's not an option have a polite conversation about how to divvy up the area so you're not screwing up each other's hunts.  The vast majority of guys might not be all that excited to see you, but are nice and understand that it's a public land issue during a popular hunt and would appreciate the conversation.  There's only so much vacation time, so why not try to make the most of it, right?  And sure, a few guys will be standoffish a-holes  (and that can't be helped since that's probably the type of people they are all the time), but at least you attempted to have a respectful conversation.  Again, seems pretty straightforward to me.

[baker5150]

So if you're sitting on a ridge in the cover of some brush and you're glassing a basin, and 2 hunters walk through said basin, is that the fault of the 2 dudes who walked into your basin? Does that make them bumbling newbies? Or does that make them just 2 dudes walking through the mountains doing the same thing as you're doing who didn't know you were there and didn't realize they were screwing anything up?
I just want to make sure I'm clear the next time I'm only 7 miles from the truck and the real hunters are 15 and some newbie bumbling idiot screws me up.

When I'm sitting on a ridge glassing, and I see other hunters rolling in, I just consider it a part of hunting.  It sucks, but it is what it is.
I've been able to hunt and not see another human for days,  I've also hunted where I thought I would be alone and ran into dozens of guys.
It's part of the game we play.

NO ONE deserves to be there more than anyone else, regardless or experience, scouting time, shoe size, or hair color.  To complain about it is human nature.  To discourage others from areas for any reason other than safety, just makes you come across as a selfish jerk.

[Bob33]

I think your point was clearly understand.

If I may offer some advice: the best action to take when in a hole is to stop digging.

[bobcat]

I'm the only hunter entitled to be wherever I am in the high country.

Everyone else is a bumbling idiot.

You've probably experienced... you are with a buddy looking at someone else hunting and you say "look at those idiots over there" or "what are those morons doing".  There's a good chance that someone else is watching you and your buddy saying the same thing at the same time.

No one ever: "Look at those brilliant hunters over there, they're totally doing the most intelligent thing ever."

We're all idiots to someone.

So true.   

[Eric M]

Did anyone ever actually answer the original question? haha

[Bob33]

Did anyone ever actually answer the original question? haha

Only idiots may answer; the wise won't share their secrets lest they get overrun.

[Eric M]

Did anyone ever actually answer the original question? haha

Only idiots may answer; the wise won't share their secrets lest they get overrun.

Ah yes. Thank you Sensei.

[ian_padron]

Boys boys boys...can't we all just get along???

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[Utah]

Good day all!

Thinking about getting out for the High Buck Hunt this year. It'd be my first. Just cogitating on which wilderness to check out.

Mule deer would be the focus, not looking at any of the Olympic areas.   I'm guessing they all hold a few nice bucks somewhere in there vast expanses.  I'd go for quality over quantity.
 
Anyone want to comment on a favorite wilderness? High country snow pack should be melting off about now, yes?

 If you've scoured enough maps and google earth you'll know where you wanta go.. Just go do it. Then shut up and don't start high hunt threads.

[jackelope]