Descendants of the first settlers reveal the truth about returning wolves to Yel

[csaaphill]

 

[bearpaw]

I still see no proof of how Hoppe intended to harm the sheep? I don't know Hoppe, as far as I know I don't know you, but by your own words and attitude I can see how the situation was likely handled if you were involved! 

You might be overestimating your omniscience by a fair bit, and might be surprised to find your assumptions are not nearly as accurate as you might believe.

I don't sugarcoat things.  No differently than the criticisms I've directed towards WDFWs LHP/land access programs, their handling of the wolf management plan, or the delisting process for wolves.

You seem fixated on offering a myriad of reasons why Bill Hoppe chose to do nothing to prevent co-mingling of his sheep and the bighorn sheep.  Whatever.  He had no legal obligation to do so and I stated as much early on.  However, I think it quite fair to say that conservation ethic would dictate the person would do the RIGHT thing, which is to take measures to prevent co-mingling.  Hoppe did not. 

I cannot speak to his reasons why, I just know he refused to do the right thing.  It makes no difference to me whether he is a sheep rancher, a priest, or a checkout clerk at Wal Mart.   His actions reflect very poorly on him as a conservationist, which he then turns around and tries to portray himself as in the Yellowstone elk herd issue.

It makes me laugh how you seem to characterize me.  My best friend happens to raise both cattle and sheep (gasp).  He is fully aware and cognizant of his potential impacts on wildlife.  We have some great conversations about such issues.  While we don't always agree on everything, I respect the heck out of him because he is always willing to do what is right, even when it doesn't directly benefit him.  I'm a public lands hunter advocate, and he's a stockgrower, and yet we share many common ideologies and philosophies.  Not all walks of life have to be mutually exclusive.

Peace out.

Disclaimer:  I am not affiliated with WSF in any way, nor do any of my statements reflect the opinions or stances of WSF.

Glad to hear you're not biased against ranchers in general. 

Considering that Hoppe had bells on his sheep to ward away wild animals it seems that he was not inviting wild sheep into the pasture. Maybe I missed something, but I haven't seen a reason to think differently! I guess you can go ahead with hating him, but I'll wait to see some proof that he is what you say he is before I pass judgement!

Have a great day!

[JLS]

So I take it you're not going to answer my questions? 

Why do you act like Craig Jourdanais is not a credible resource?

Can you post a link on Craig Jourdanais?

http://www.intermountainjournal.org/browse/authors/jourdonnais-craig/

Here are a few.  The Bitterroot elk study is a very good read.  It came in my handbook on "How to be an Effective Shill".