someone should sue groups that introduce wolves

[Bill W]

I was sitting here this morning and had a brain fart thought.  Why doesn't any rancher that has animals killed or injured by wolves sue the groups that introduced the wolves.

Before you say "this is a dumb thought", consider the parallel between damages by wolves and the people who sue gun manufacturers for damages.

I'd bet if the wolf groups had some of their funding eaten up in lawsuits and bad press they might have second thoughts on supporting future actions.

[Katmai Guy]

Why don't all the hunters in the state file a class action suit because we've paid thru taxes and donations to increase the population of game animals to hunt and they are basically being used for dog food and our seasons will be shortened or permits for OILs will be reduced due to lack of game population.  Just a thought.

[Special T]

I think there are multipal hurdles that are difficult to overcome. How do you sue the feds who have much deeper pockets than you do? How do your prove the damages? How do you connect the damages to wolves that were brought into ID & YNP? 

[NoBark]

The Anti's seem to be able to overcome the funding issue and sue the Feds every other day!  They just happen to have a bunch of under employed gold seeking lawyers who are willing to take their case for free because they think it'll help their reputation.  JMHO

[JDHasty]

The Anti's seem to be able to overcome the funding issue and sue the Feds every other day!  They just happen to have a bunch of under employed gold seeking lawyers who are willing to take their case for free because they think it'll help their reputation.  JMHO

It is far more nefarious than that.  Get yourself a copy of The Real Wolf, I think it has a pretty good synopsis in it of how the federal agencies funnel funds to the various communist front organizations that pose as environmentalist, animal welfare, etc.   

[Special T]

These environment groups are in collusion  with the feds. They make millions using sue and settle techniques by representing  ESA listed species.  Thier game is more like an old school mafia shake down. It's not possible to use that same tactic against the gov.

[Bill W]

I read in the Spokane paper today that re-stocking grizzlies is being considered for the Sierras.   Now if a hiker/hunter/whoever was injured by a re-introduced bear wouldn't he/she be able to sue because the "fill in the blank" increased their potential of injury. 

The ranchers have lost income because of someone else's actions.  Seems to me that's something that worth pursuing.  The ranchers should be able to find a pro-ranching lawyer that would take their case on contingency. 

[JDHasty]

These environment groups are in collusion  with the feds. They make millions using sue and settle techniques by representing  ESA listed species.  Thier game is more like an old school mafia shake down. It's not possible to use that same tactic against the gov.

 

[jackelope]

Not sure if you're talking about Washington, but I might as well say it. The wolves were not actually "introduced" here. If you think they were and want to start some sort of class action suit, you'd have to prove that they were introduced I suppose. Evidence of that has been asked for about 6,000 times on this very forum, and no evidence has ever been shown.

Just throwing that out there. I feel bad for the ranchers affected by them, and I feel bad for all the hunters affected by them as well.
 

[Bill W]

Not sure if you're talking about Washington, but I might as well say it. The wolves were not actually "introduced" here. If you think they were and want to start some sort of class action suit, you'd have to prove that they were introduced I suppose. Evidence of that has been asked for about 6,000 times on this very forum, and no evidence has ever been shown.

Just throwing that out there. I feel bad for the ranchers affected by them, and I feel bad for all the hunters affected by them as well.

Well, to twist that a little bit here's a thought.  We have feral pigs WDFW is removing.   Could the wolves be classed as "feral" also? 

[Special T]

There is proof they were introduced as an experimental  population to ID and YNP but I'm not sure how your gona finance such an endeavor.
My family busniess was involved in a lawsuit with a multimillion dollar corporation in the late 70s for a period of 10 years the family business spend over $30k a year every year. It nearly destroyed  it. The overall  goal for them was to bankrupt us. Fortunately  we eventually won only .staying the course because grandpa was so damn stubborn.

[Special T]

Not sure if you're talking about Washington, but I might as well say it. The wolves were not actually "introduced" here. If you think they were and want to start some sort of class action suit, you'd have to prove that they were introduced I suppose. Evidence of that has been asked for about 6,000 times on this very forum, and no evidence has ever been shown.

Just throwing that out there. I feel bad for the ranchers affected by them, and I feel bad for all the hunters affected by them as well.

Well, to twist that a little bit here's a thought.  We have feral pigs WDFW is removing.   Could the wolves be classed as "feral" also?

There is no magic bullet because the invasive species card has been attempted and went no where. Why? Because the feds and state want them here... sick isn't it.

[jackelope]

Not sure if you're talking about Washington, but I might as well say it. The wolves were not actually "introduced" here. If you think they were and want to start some sort of class action suit, you'd have to prove that they were introduced I suppose. Evidence of that has been asked for about 6,000 times on this very forum, and no evidence has ever been shown.

Just throwing that out there. I feel bad for the ranchers affected by them, and I feel bad for all the hunters affected by them as well.

Well, to twist that a little bit here's a thought.  We have feral pigs WDFW is removing.   Could the wolves be classed as "feral" also? 

Feral pigs are not listed and federally protected as endangered species.

[elkboy]

What would you do (legally) about the naturally recolonizing wolves moving south from BC? 

[Cougartail]

What would you do (legally) about the naturally recolonizing wolves moving south from BC?

Vote Trump! See what happens when you don't have strong borders and walls. lol