collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: "Ripples" in Win. M70 Barrel!!!??  (Read 4887 times)

Offline matttyson

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Tracker
  • **
  • Join Date: Jun 2012
  • Posts: 30
  • Location: NCW
"Ripples" in Win. M70 Barrel!!!??
« on: May 22, 2016, 06:54:42 PM »
Hey all the gunsmiths out there; at the range today I noticed that there are 4 "ripples" in my barrel.  They are visible with the naked eye because of the slightly discolored metal (stainless steel barrel) and you can easily feel them when you run your fingers down the barrel.  Anyone got any ideas? Here is some more info:

Winchester Model 70 Classic Stainless 30-06
Bought new in 2001 or 2002
Shot 300-500 times since new
Ripples are felt 360 degrees around the barrel
The rough location is where the barrel is engraved with caliber
The barrel was cleaned prior to shooting today.  Obstruction in the barrel is unlikely.
While shooting today (and in the past) I always let the barrel cool after shooting 3-5 times max.
I quite shooting after noticing the ripples.


Again, any help is appreciated and let me know if I can answer any more questions.  Thanks!


Offline Kittman

  • Past Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2013
  • Posts: 527
  • Location: Oak Harbor
  • Groups: NRA, US Navy
Re: "Ripples" in Win. M70 Barrel!!!??
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2016, 08:36:05 AM »
Not a professional gunsmith here, but stainless steel can easily be galled.  Without pictures I would guess that the tooling at the factory was a bit on the dull side when your barrel was milled.  I don't know that I would worry too much about it unless it is going pretty deep down into the metal, or there is something drastically changing with the affected area all of the sudden.

Offline WoodlandShooter

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2013
  • Posts: 1024
  • Location: neither here nor there
  • Groups: P.H.U.
Re: "Ripples" in Win. M70 Barrel!!!??
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2016, 08:58:40 AM »
is it a hammer forger barrel?

Offline matttyson

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Tracker
  • **
  • Join Date: Jun 2012
  • Posts: 30
  • Location: NCW
Re: "Ripples" in Win. M70 Barrel!!!??
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2016, 09:41:57 AM »
Here is a picture.  You can see the dark lines.  I have no idea on the hammer forged question.  I talked to Winchester/Browning and a local (Wenatchee) gunsmith and they both think it could be a bulge due to obstruction, without seeing the rifle.  Which would hurt my ego a bit as I am meticulous in my cleaning/maintenance practices.

Offline Kittman

  • Past Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2013
  • Posts: 527
  • Location: Oak Harbor
  • Groups: NRA, US Navy
Re: "Ripples" in Win. M70 Barrel!!!??
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2016, 10:51:45 AM »
If there was an obstruction inside the barrel, quite possibly you would not be here on this forum discussing it now.

Offline YukonHunter

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Tracker
  • **
  • Join Date: Apr 2016
  • Posts: 37
  • Location: Olympia
Re: "Ripples" in Win. M70 Barrel!!!??
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2016, 04:17:36 PM »
Is there a chance oil got in your barrel and not removed all the way.  The exact thing happened to a friends rifle.

Offline matttyson

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Tracker
  • **
  • Join Date: Jun 2012
  • Posts: 30
  • Location: NCW
Re: "Ripples" in Win. M70 Barrel!!!??
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2016, 09:26:20 PM »
Update:  I had the barrel scoped by another gunsmith and he didn't see any budging on the inside. On his recommendation I opted to send the rifle back to Winchester so they can examine.  I will let everyone know what I find out.  Thanks for the replies.

Offline jmscon

  • Forum Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2015
  • Posts: 1215
  • Location: Seattle
  • RMEF BHA TRCP
Re: "Ripples" in Win. M70 Barrel!!!??
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2016, 08:57:09 PM »
Any updates on this?
My interpretation of the rules are open to interpretation.
Once I thought I was wrong but I was mistaken.

Offline NW-GSP

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2009
  • Posts: 2727
Re: "Ripples" in Win. M70 Barrel!!!??
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2016, 09:45:47 PM »
?

Offline jmscon

  • Forum Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2015
  • Posts: 1215
  • Location: Seattle
  • RMEF BHA TRCP
Re: "Ripples" in Win. M70 Barrel!!!??
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2016, 09:51:43 PM »
?

Said it was sent to Winchester to get examined, well what did they say?
My interpretation of the rules are open to interpretation.
Once I thought I was wrong but I was mistaken.

Offline thinkingman

  • Trade Count: (+10)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2008
  • Posts: 2363
Re: "Ripples" in Win. M70 Barrel!!!??
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2016, 07:55:20 AM »
I'm going to guess it's a result of hammer forging.
No concerns regarding safety.
“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser men so full of doubts.”
― Bertrand Russell

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

2025 Draw Results by Elkaholic daWg
[Today at 07:02:27 AM]


Cowiche Quality Buck by tvandy45
[Today at 06:32:20 AM]


Son drawn - Silver Dollar Youth Any Elk - Help? by Rugergunsite308
[Today at 06:27:17 AM]


Bow mount trolling motors by CP
[Today at 06:03:13 AM]


SE raffle tags holder by HntnFsh
[Today at 05:39:57 AM]


11th Annual 'Pull For Scouting' Clay Crushing Classic by high_hunter
[Today at 12:27:18 AM]


AKC lab puppies! Born 06/10/2025 follow as they grow!!! by high_hunter
[Today at 12:21:33 AM]


Ritzville Rifle Buck - GMU 284 by high_hunter
[Yesterday at 11:49:16 PM]


Antlerless Moose more than once? by shootem
[Yesterday at 11:25:51 PM]


Nooksack Muzzleloader Bull Tag by high_hunter
[Yesterday at 10:42:24 PM]


My wife drew quality deer DESERT rifle 10/18-10/26!!!!! by high_hunter
[Yesterday at 10:17:15 PM]


Palouse buck deer by blumtnelkndeer
[Yesterday at 10:14:00 PM]


Drew Quality by Jimmer
[Yesterday at 09:34:00 PM]


Nevada guide draw Mule Deer by Beastmonger1987
[Yesterday at 09:33:34 PM]


Quality Swakane by Rainier10
[Yesterday at 09:09:17 PM]


Observatory quality bull rifle by buglebuster
[Yesterday at 09:00:02 PM]


Anterless 1334 muzzle loader by Bdawg
[Yesterday at 08:46:31 PM]


A little Martini Cadet varmint rifle I have been working on by JDHasty
[Yesterday at 08:43:33 PM]


Pogue Quality by geauxtigers
[Yesterday at 08:38:35 PM]


2025 OILS! by HUNTNORTHWEST
[Yesterday at 07:46:27 PM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal