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Why does Knight suggest sabots and not full bore bullet?
« on: August 22, 2016, 11:36:44 AM »
I was on knights website because my girlfriend just got a knight littlehorn and seen that Knight say to shoot sabots out of all there rifles instead of like a powerbelt or something and I was just curious why.. 

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Re: Why does Knight suggest sabots and not full bore bullet?
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2016, 04:39:40 PM »
I was on knights website because my girlfriend just got a knight littlehorn and seen that Knight say to shoot sabots out of all there rifles instead of like a powerbelt or something and I was just curious why..


The most commonly used bullet across the country is a bullet slipped into a sabot.  But, a Knight will shoot most anything that fits with great accuracy even those terrible 'pBelts' - the 'jest' on the pBelts is purely personal...

 
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Re: Why does Knight suggest sabots and not full bore bullet?
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2016, 04:46:43 PM »
I shot Powerbelts from my Knight Bighorn .50 for several years.  However, I experienced some bad accuracy with them towards the end of that period.  On Sabotloader's recommendation, I switched to the Knight Bloodlines, and will never go back.  They shoot cleaner and much more accurately.  The effect on game is tremendous. They are more expensive, but a good sabot is truly worth it.  On a side note, I do not miss all the soft lead flakes littering the inside of the deer carcass.  My nervous system needs all the help it can get, I suppose! 

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Re: Why does Knight suggest sabots and not full bore bullet?
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2016, 11:08:06 AM »
That's what i shoot is the 275 grain bloodlines and I love them and we will be switching my girlfriend to them also I just was wondering if it made that big of a differences but it sounds like it might.

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Re: Why does Knight suggest sabots and not full bore bullet?
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2016, 11:37:08 AM »
"ballistically, bore sized projectiles are the very worst muzzleloading projectiles available. Comparing a .452 or .452 saboted pistol bullet to a "fifty caliber" bore-sized conical makes even the poorest pistol bullet look like a shooting powerhouse. It is fundamental that when comparing projectiles of similar weight and shape, the smaller caliber bullet is always superior in sectional density and almost always superior in ballistic coefficient. In other words, it flies better and penetrates deeper, losing less of its terminal striking force than a bore sized bullet."

http://www.chuckhawks.com/powerbelt_bullets.htm

Randy W. is pretty much a tool, but he at least got this right.

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Re: Why does Knight suggest sabots and not full bore bullet?
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2016, 11:44:08 AM »
The plastic "skirt" at the base of the Powerbelt functions a *little bit* like a sabot, but still lacks the wrap-around stabilization offered by a sabot.  Again, I am no expert (see Sabotloader for that!), but my own experience has led me on a one-way track to saboted rounds. 

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Re: Why does Knight suggest sabots and not full bore bullet?
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2016, 01:43:56 PM »
Copied this from the Knight owners manual

 Knight Rifles does not recommend the use of non-saboted lead
projectiles. These bullets can easily be moved from the powder charge. This will
result in an obstructed barrel, and, upon firing, could cause an explosion. If you
choose or legally have to shoot non-saboted lead projectiles, always check that
your projectile is properly seated immediately before priming and firing.


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Re: Why does Knight suggest sabots and not full bore bullet?
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2016, 07:20:38 PM »
Copied this from the Knight owners manual

 Knight Rifles does not recommend the use of non-saboted lead
projectiles. These bullets can easily be moved from the powder charge. This will
result in an obstructed barrel, and, upon firing, could cause an explosion. If you
choose or legally have to shoot non-saboted lead projectiles, always check that
your projectile is properly seated immediately before priming and firing.

In Knight's business world it is all about "safety and liability"

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