Gun wont group UPDATED: GOT GROUPS

[PolarBear]

My point is that Federal is not crappy ammo, it just might not be right for your particilar gun. My .300 Win Mag HATES Hornady 180's but loves cheapo core loks. It really shot it's best with sierra pro hunters, another " crap" round.

[ctwiggs1]

 

Believing that a certain ammunition which shoots well or poorly in one rifle will shoot  the same in a different firearm is a fool's errand. Two identical rifles of the same make, model and caliber will often shoot differently with the same ammunition. Very slight variations in barrels can result in different harmonics as a bullet travels down the barrel.

Conclusion: only your rifle can tell you which ammunition it prefers or dislikes.

 

[Stickerbush]

OK so we are back in business. First of all, thanks for all the suggestions and input. I took the gun over to my gunsmith friend who builds custom rifles etc. He checked all the screws and everything, the only things that were loose were one of the action screws which he said probably wouldn't disrupt anything. He gave me some pointers and gave me a box of federal match ammo to try. Said that the match ammo should give the best results and if the scope was off it would be obvious after I shot the match.

Today was range day and I brought the federal 168gr match, hornaday match 168 and barnes 168. Shot 18 total and really focused on form. Got some decent groups but I have some work to do still. Was told that the vertical gaping in my groups is due to improper breathing. I can feel it too, I'm still really working on getting that surprise shot. Got my trigger pull tested at like 3.5 lbs. Had a really solid rest this time too. Here are the groups, the best I got was from the barnes

[Stickerbush]

Not perfect but on my way, should mention that the ammo I was using before had sat in my truck all summer. Not sure if that would matter or not

[Taco280AI]

Are those at 50 or 100?

[cooltimber]

try a box of 165 gr coreloks,good advise here..sweets is all I've used and it does keep the barrel clean.
 

[lokidog]

Another thing that will help your groups is to shoot at a target that has nice crisp aiming points, like the corner of a square, or an 'X'.  Aiming at the edge of a circle will give you some built in error automatically.   

[jasnt]

With a 1:10 twist your rifle should shoot up to 210gr just fine. That said every rifle is different. Like said clean out your copper and shoot.  I have never done a break in and never needed to. A rifle like what it like. Find what it likes and your good to go. Clean when acuracey slugs off

[Stickerbush]

Are those at 50 or 100?

100

[Stickerbush]

Another thing that will help your groups is to shoot at a target that has nice crisp aiming points, like the corner of a square, or an 'X'.  Aiming at the edge of a circle will give you some built in error automatically.   

good idea, thanks

[ctwiggs1]

It looks to me like you might have two things going on (breathing and anticipating the shot), and I think both can be solved with dime drills.  Google dime drills and try it at home.  Have someone help you out by placing the dime.  It'll force you to concentrate on your breathing, and force you to follow through with the trigger squeeze.

Overall I think you've got this in the bag, just keep it up and don't stop practicing. Eventually it'll be muscle memory.

 

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