Deer meat donation "ignorance is Bliss"

[Special T]

Since I don't know the area I will toss out an idea that has worked in the Skagit Valley. The master hunter damage coordinator up here has a pretty pulse on what is going on and contacts for local hunters who have tags to dispatch wounded game. It would stand to reason that a person in this position would be well suited to find someone willing to donate the time to handle it.

[dmv9]

Wouldn't this be a problem? Along with discharging a weapon within city limits?

"An individual may not kill an injured or wounded animal for the purpose of salvage. Only a law enforcement officer or individuals or entities authorized by the department may euthanize an animal injured in a motor vehicle collision, whether or not the animal is taken for salvage."

[grade-creek-rd]

RatRodMike,

The Inland Northwest Wildlife Council in Spokane has been doing this very thing for years now (since 1996)!!! and the officer in this situation was well aware of this program too...really hoping that out of this incident that a council in Western Washington can be formed for this very thing! As far as the euthanizing of the animal goes, yes the LE would have to do it, but currently they do it anyway, just instead of the meat going to help others it goes straight to the incinerator.

The officer did a little research (after not being able to sleep last night due to how they felt from their Dept's reaction)...in Pierce County the food banks served 518,000 individuals...per their website at FISH (acronym for the food bank...had nothing to do with actual fish). It's hard as a hunter to see much needed food just go to waste because of the uneducated upper staff at a city police department...the officer in this incident doesn't blame the staff as they realize it's a lack of education but then to come back after the officer gave a statement to Internal Affairs to have his chain of command come down on them and say how the officer put the city at a liability and to never do it again, all because that officer didn't want the meat to go to waste and found a way to feed people...OK, I'm saying too much and giving my opinion, which I wanted to keep myself out of it...plus I didn't sleep well last night and need some coffee....

[pianoman9701]

You can't blame the department for being concerned that they're not equipped for food safety. I understand it even if it's obvious the meat is fine to us. Everyone hates the cops nowadays. All they need is a reason to sue. 

[SteelheadTed]

What I know is people still get sick even after the nanny state inspects our meat (by certified inspectors wearing sanitized garb while writing on a sanitized clip board) and that seems to be OK.  BUT, if someone donates meat like the story above and someone were to get sick by god that is unconscionable!  Strange times these are.

If I were that officer I'd keep doing it.  I'd make it an issue.  If the department were to discipline me I'd make it public.  Dealing with silliness like this won't end until people stand up and say "enough!".  And it won't change if the people standing up aren't people in a position of influence.  I'd argue that this officer is in such a position.  It'll take courage, I don't deny that but that is indeed what it will take.

The fact that a deer in this situation could go to waste because of liability concerns is such a backwards way of thinking that I wonder how we walk straight.

[pianoman9701]

I didn't say the meat had to go to waste. I'm just not going to be quick about jumping on a department for doing what it thinks it needs for liability. The officer may well line up other options for future incidents of this type, as mentioned above.

[lokidog]

I think it is a bunch of crap!  Everyone is more concerned about lawsuits than doing "the right thing". 

One big change that needs to be made to this law is that there needs to be a provision for finishing an injured animal off. I know an injured elk could be a hazard but in WI a private citizen is allowed to finish an injured animal by cutting its throat (or clubbing it with a 2X4    ), you just can't shoot it with a gun or bow.

I have dispatched multiple road hit animals and they have all been surprisingly docile, compared to a non-fatally shot deer or elk. They usually seem to be in shock and struggle very little.

[pianoman9701]

It's funny to me that many of the same people bothered by the BS of BLM and have said they openly support the police are now ticked off about them trying to cover their butts in an area where they're neither licensed nor experienced. It's very much like politics. You're not going to like everything a politician says or does. But, you pick the one you like the most and support them. Same with cops. 

[ffbowhunter]

Situation: a deer is struck by a car and had a broken leg. The deer is euthanized by a major metropolitan city police dept that has about a dozen such incidents each year here in Western Washington. An officer who is also a hunter overhears the incident and contacts a local homeless shelter who is very happy to receive a donation of meat. 75 pounds of meat is salvaged (less than 2 hours from time of death to freezer at the homeless shelter) and donated by the officer to feed 300 people (1/4 lb serving) and the officer...is told to never do this again by their Dept as it is a "liability", told "what if someone got sick from the deer meat?" Officer tries to explain that the WDFW donates to the same homeless shelter on a regular basis and the shelter already had a few deer in their freezer. Dept didn't care and told officer to never do this again...and even insinuated that the officer didn't actually donate the meat but kept it for himself, until it was verified with the homeless shelter that the meat was actually donated.

Yes, this really happened, and Yes, I am leaving out the Dept name, Officer name...and Yes, I have first hand knowledge of this actually occurring.

Just wanting to know what Hunt-Wa and fellow hunters thoughts are on this?

Grade

Tine to contact his union rep! That's too bad.

[singleshot12]

deer meat is probably the healthiest meat out there

Yes if not hit by a car. People forget when an animal gets hit by a car what usually happens is busted intestines pumping into the meat tainting it for human consumption. Ecoli poisoning is not a myth.

[fish vacuum]

Depending on the location, there may be other places to donate roadkill without the liability issues.
Sarvey Wildlife rehab in Arlington takes that kind of thing. If there's similar place nearby they might be an option. Maybe Northwest Trek takes meat donations?

[Tjv28]

From my understanding homeless shelters can only take donations that are U.S.D.A. approved. It's lame, but that's how it is. I've heard certain Indian reservations will take the meat though. Also, the issaquah zoo takes road kill to feed the cats.

[Eli346]

I think it's just another case of the department trying to reduce liability. I don't agree with it but with this litigious society it opens the door for all kinds of legal action should something go wrong. The next time it happens there should be a number that the officers can call to ensure that the meat gets taken care of and processed before it's wasted. I know of an instance down here where I tended to a buck injured until a sheriff could 'dispatch' it. When I asked him where the animal was headed he said it was going to a local wild animal shelter for food.

[lokidog]

Depending on the location, there may be other places to donate roadkill without the liability issues.
Sarvey Wildlife rehab in Arlington takes that kind of thing. If there's similar place nearby they might be an option. Maybe Northwest Trek takes meat donations?

Back in 2000, NWT told me they did not take roadkill because some counties poisoned it for coyote control, that might have changed by now.

[unbrkwoodsmen]

There should be a program like they have in Alaska for moose hit by cars.    they have a list of people that will come and process and dispose of the animal.    They need to remove from the scene all items.   They are then required to donate 50% or more of the meat salvaged to a food bank.   The officers have the list and start down it on the first animal until they find someone who is available.  The next animal they start at the next person on the list.   Works very well.