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Long range rifles?
« on: September 15, 2016, 10:45:56 AM »
Getting into long range hunting. Want to shoot to 1000 yds.  And want to get a 7mm mag. Or a .300 mag. Topping out at $2000.  Any suggestions?  What's your favorite?
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Re: Long range rifles?
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2016, 10:47:56 AM »
Not sure as i dont see a scope mentioned but did you see the rbros in classifieds?

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Re: Long range rifles?
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2016, 11:01:42 AM »
I have both a Remington sendero and a savage long range hunter. Rem in 300 rum caliber, and the savage is in 6.5-284. Both are great shooters and well within your rifle budget even with some upgrades. I wouldn't hesitate to buy either again.  :twocents:
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Re: Long range rifles?
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2016, 11:06:44 AM »
I've had the huskemaw scope on my .300 win mag for years now, no complaints.  My farthest kill shot is around 620.  I just sent my gun to them to have them check it out and after a slight adjustment they had it shooting 1,000 yards on target.  If I did it over again, I'd consider the 7mm ultra mag just because that's what their system is set up for.
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Re: Long range rifles?
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2016, 01:54:20 PM »
I agree with earlier post that the Rem Sendero or Savage LRH are the best options within your budget.  For optics I would recommend a scope with MOA based turrets rather than caliber specific, yardage specific turrets.  You didn't mention your optics budget but the Nightforce SHV line is an excellent option for a mid priced optic with long range capability.  Depending upon what caliber and scope you select you may also need a 20 MOA base if you want to shoot beyond 1000 yards.
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Re: Long range rifles?
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2016, 02:23:36 PM »
I agree with earlier post that the Rem Sendero or Savage LRH are the best options within your budget.  For optics I would recommend a scope with MOA based turrets rather than caliber specific, yardage specific turrets.  You didn't mention your optics budget but the Nightforce SHV line is an excellent option for a mid priced optic with long range capability.  Depending upon what caliber and scope you select you may also need a 20 MOA base if you want to shoot beyond 1000 yards.

 :yeah:  Solid advice.

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Re: Long range rifles?
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2016, 02:25:18 PM »
I'm getting a new NF ATACR 5-25-56 for the rifle. 
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2016, 02:32:33 PM »
I bought a .300 RUM that came recommended by a hunting buddy from Idaho. He personally has taken elk at 900+ with that rifle and a NF scope.
I haven't shot that far, and probably never will (I wiggle too much!).
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Re: Long range rifles?
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2016, 02:35:37 PM »
I bought the Remington 700 Long Range in .25-06. It's a pretty good shooter so far but I've only shot it about 20 rounds. Shoots about .7" groups at 100 yards. I've not had chance to air it out at all yet. I put a Leupold Vari-x 2 6-18x40 on it with MOA turrets. Looking forward to extending the range on it a little here. After hunting season it's going to rbros for a little experiment.


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Re: Long range rifles?
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2016, 03:47:55 PM »
I'm getting a new NF ATACR 5-25-56 for the rifle.

Perhaps more than what you need for 1000 yard shooting but what the heck - go big or go home right?  :chuckle:
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Re: Long range rifles?
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2016, 06:22:58 PM »
 :chuckle:  yeah always had the little scopes, but now I want to see the animals like there standing wright next to me instead of a little blur far away. :IBCOOL:
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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2016, 06:39:55 PM »
Find an older sendero or just buy a rem LR rifle.  Use the rest of the money for ammo and small tweaks on the rifle.  Shoot it for awhile then you can use it to build a semi custom.
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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2016, 07:34:21 PM »
Pickup a Rem 700 Long Range in .300 Win Mag, and find a nice used Manners or McMillan or a new Kremlin or Grayboe stock.  Bed it if it needs it, and go to work!
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Re: Long range rifles?
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2016, 07:49:47 PM »
well, the cartridges you mentioned should be good for that range.  I think as along as the bullet is still over 1300 fps at range, you should be good.  Then you're just working on the rifle/load for what more you want.

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Re: Long range rifles?
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2016, 07:15:41 AM »
Jackelope,
 Keep us posted on your 'little experiment' at rbros. I've been itching to either get one of their rifles or get some work done on what I have.

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Re: Long range rifles?
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2016, 07:52:44 AM »
Find someone who knows their stuff and have them help you find a used rig.  You'll get more for your money buying a custom or semi-custom used rifle.  If you buy a new 700 long range, you'll soon get upgrade-itis, new trigger, bed it, etc...

Look for an appropriate cartridge with a known low round count, known accuracy level, and reputable seller.


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Re: Long range rifles?
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2016, 08:13:37 AM »
Find someone who knows their stuff and have them help you find a used rig.  You'll get more for your money buying a custom or semi-custom used rifle.  If you buy a new 700 long range, you'll soon get upgrade-itis, new trigger, bed it, etc...

Look for an appropriate cartridge with a known low round count, known accuracy level, and reputable seller.



Speaking from a budget standpoint, you can buy a 700LR for $600 and put $300-500 into upgrades and still be a lot cheaper than a true custom. Or semi-custom.
I put a trigger in mine and have shot about 20 rounds of factory ammo and it's in the .7" range. Going to get a little work done to it pretty soon with a reputable builder and hope to have it shooting .5" and it will still only have about $900 invested into it all up.
 
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Re: Long range rifles?
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2016, 02:04:14 PM »
I forgot about the 700 lr. That would be a good one too

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Re: Long range rifles?
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2016, 04:11:05 PM »
I'm getting a new NF ATACR 5-25-56 for the rifle. 

Great choice! Mine has quickly become my favorite scope. :tup:

Find someone who knows their stuff and have them help you find a used rig.  You'll get more for your money buying a custom or semi-custom used rifle.  If you buy a new 700 long range, you'll soon get upgrade-itis, new trigger, bed it, etc...

Look for an appropriate cartridge with a known low round count, known accuracy level, and reputable seller.

This is excellent advice. The best way to get started is to buy quality used equipment from somebody looking to upgrade. Building on a tweaked and tuned Rem 700 puts you at nearly the same price as a used gun with a custom action. Being patient and shopping around can save you a lot of money.

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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2016, 08:04:59 AM »
One thing I've learned is once you start shooting long range you will want to stretch it out farther. A lot of good advice above, I'll add from my own expirence you may want to take 2nd look at the 338 flavors, after almost 1000 rounds threw my 300WM I really wish I had a little longer super sonic range. Jme
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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2016, 08:20:26 AM »
If you really want an accurate rifle at a good price talk to Travis of RBros. Every now and then a customer is looking to sell a rifle he built in order to fund a new rifle. Get it used with all the benefits of a full custom, just at less cost.

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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2016, 08:21:36 AM »
I actually have one at the moment in a 6.5-06 ackley if your interested.
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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2016, 09:35:47 PM »
I shoot a tikka t3 superlite 7mm mag, Talley lights, vortex viper hslr. Hornady superformance 154gr sst.
Confirmed out to 1630 yards now. And Two kills over 600 yards.
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« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2016, 10:22:07 PM »
I'm very happy with my LR

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« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2016, 10:38:38 PM »
For 1,000 yards and your budget, Sendero SFII, lighter trigger spring, muzzlebreak, and a Leupold VX-3 with MOA turrets. My cousin and I had twin setups that we would shoot accurately out to 1,600 yards with our hand loads.

Wouldn't hesitate to go with an Rbros rifle if you could find one in your budget though.

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« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2016, 06:44:30 AM »
I'd also consider a cooper 52 . Dj's in bothell typically has a couple . I'm running the .280ai. assuming your talking 2k for the rifle only . my son just did a tika .300wsm with a bellcarolson stock and a bench mark brake . he used a vx3 and warne bases sweet set up for 2k total . 

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« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2016, 07:04:01 AM »
Savage long range hunter in Lapua or 6.5 creedmor + Nightforce SHV scope = $2k.
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« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2016, 12:22:09 PM »
What cartrage are you guys shooting to 1600? I Have never been able to get any degree of accuracy once it hits that trans-sonic range. 
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« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2016, 10:12:05 AM »
What cartrage are you guys shooting to 1600? I Have never been able to get any degree of accuracy once it hits that trans-sonic range.

.300 RUM, shooting the 208gr A-Max.

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What cartrage are you guys shooting to 1600? I Have never been able to get any degree of accuracy once it hits that trans-sonic range.

.300 RUM, shooting the 208gr A-Max.
what speed you getting out of that. Running the numbers with a 210 vld @3000fps I'm seeing the bullet go sub sonic around 1400yards unless your up high and pressure is low. Even at 3100fps it's down to 1300fps +/- at 1450yards.  I could see getting out to 1600 if your up high with pressure around 24.50 inHG.
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« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2016, 01:20:31 PM »
What cartrage are you guys shooting to 1600? I Have never been able to get any degree of accuracy once it hits that trans-sonic range.

.300 RUM, shooting the 208gr A-Max.
what speed you getting out of that. Running the numbers with a 210 vld @3000fps I'm seeing the bullet go sub sonic around 1400yards unless your up high and pressure is low. Even at 3100fps it's down to 1300fps +/- at 1450yards.  I could see getting out to 1600 if your up high with pressure around 24.50 inHG.
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