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Re: bow tests thus far
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2009, 09:32:03 PM »
good point, 5"8 isnt much better :'(
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Re: bow tests thus far
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2009, 09:33:35 PM »
Stop hacking my thread !!! lol damn both of you

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Re: bow tests thus far
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2009, 11:42:06 PM »
When you are only 5'6" and only have a 27" draw, the string angle isn't as steep and the bow seems like it's the right size and not a 2x4...  :chuckle:

Ha ha gotta love being short.  I'm 5'6.25 and I agree the Admiral doesn't seem to short at all.  My tall goofy *censored* of a friend hated it and says it felt like a toy.  I loved it.  I test fired it and am buying it so in order to not jack this thread here was how I felt about it.

I recently testfired the Bowtech Admiral $769.  It was set at 70lbs and 28 inches of draw.  This bow has the smoothest draw cycle of any bow I have shot.  If you let down it also does not rip your arm out of your socket like the Bowtech 82nd Airborn or the PSE X-Force will.  When you fire it there is absolutely no hand torque to speak of and was basically vibration free and without any after market silencing stuff such as Limb Savers etc was super quiet.  Overall it was the smoothest shooting bow I have ever shot. Another thing I liked about it is that you can change the draw length and the draw weight with hand tools and without needing a bow press. The only downside to this bow is it is slightly heavier than the Matthews and the Hoyt's.  I think this is because of the center pivot riser.  Overall the most awsomest bow ever.  And yes awsomest is now a word.
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Re: bow tests thus far
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2009, 04:41:44 AM »
I would love to, but we dont carry bowtech.. their customer service was awful at best from what I was told


Come on Paul, you can't beleave every thing you hear, you will never like anything other than Hoyt until you shoot what's not in your shop, I know you get a good deal on bows from hoyt for being on the shooting staff but you'r opinion is biased and you wont be able to give an honest opinion on any other bow thats not sold in your store, get out and shoot all the bows then compare them, not by what other people tell you
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Re: bow tests thus far
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2009, 06:06:57 AM »
Good review.  I currently shoot a SBXT.  I enjoy single cam bows, and Im gonna wait to see what all the hype is with the " Monster" before I purchase a new bow.  If I dont like it or the Reezen Im more than happy with what I have now.

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Re: bow tests thus far
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2009, 01:28:48 PM »
I didn't used to be biased, but then I shot that bowtech Admiral and now I'm very biased towards that bow.  I have a friend who is biased towards Matthews.  But then again he's an guide in Montana and every year as a bonus gets a free Matthews from their CEO.  So that's understandable. 
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Re: bow tests thus far
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2009, 01:58:42 PM »
This is the only way to test bows "head to head" without a biased view in my oppion
the test starts at 2 mins. I wish they would do another test with this year bows. This shows what the bow is capable of without any human interference.
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« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2009, 03:01:43 PM »
I shot the PSE X-Force and it was a miserable bow to shoot.  It was loud, had alot of vibe and had a rough draw cycle and God forbid trying to let that thing down, you'll need shoulder surgery. 

This test was set up to show the strengths of the X-Force which is speed and ft pounds of energy.  That the only strength it has.  This demo was rigged.  Why did they take off all of the factory installed anti-vibe and sound dampening stuff.  Because they knew that if the other bows could keep that factory installed stuff the X-Force would be much louder.  If it was a truly unbiased test it would have measured the sound with all the factory installed stuff.  It's not after-market stuff it's factory installed stuff that is part of the bow. 

If it was unbiased they also would have had real people shoot it to compare how smooth the draw cycle is and how much each bow vibes etc.  We are not machines and hand torque and a smooth draw is important after all this has a big impact on how accurate we shoot.  It was very biased.  After all look who produced it.  Any video that is produced by a bow manufacturer is going to be biased it doesn't matter who it is. 
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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2009, 04:53:52 PM »
Good review.  I currently shoot a SBXT.  I enjoy single cam bows, and Im gonna wait to see what all the hype is with the " Monster" before I purchase a new bow.  If I dont like it or the Reezen Im more than happy with what I have now.

The SBXT is an awesome bow! I will never get rid of mine but i was talked into buying a DXT this hunting season. I didn't think Mathews could ever make a better bow but they proved me wrong once again! lol I have shot the Reezen and i wasn't impressed and all the Monster is is a worked over PSE. If you are going to get another bow i would definitely recommend the the DXT. But keep your switchback!!!

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Re: bow tests thus far
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2009, 04:54:42 PM »
Good point and I am with you on the X-force, I have shot one to. I wasn't plugging them in anyway. I was just stating I would like to see the top bow companies get together and do a true "head to head" pure facts test just the way you get the bow from the store. I just think it is funny on how all thees bows advertise this and that but none of them actually stack up to what they advertise. There would be no way to get unbiased opinion on draw cycle with a human shooting the bow. You would have to be holding the particular bow in hand thus knowing what bow you are shooting. Someone working for Hoyt would not say that a Bowtech is smoother,even if it was. I am sure with the technology today there is a way to test this. I do agree that we are not machines and different bows fit people different but it sure would be a fun test.
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Re: bow tests thus far
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2009, 08:55:03 PM »
I know you weren't trying to plug something.  A year ago I saw that same video and thought it was the greatest thing ever until I shot the X-Force.  I also wish they would change the IBO requirements.  I mean honestly who actually hunts with a 350 grain arrow.  Also how many people have a 30 inch draw.  I believe the average is like 29.  The reason they do that is so they can shoot as fast as possible to draw people in.  I would like to see a machine shoot just like PSE did except in a non-biased way.  Also have them shoot arrow weights that people actually hunt with at an average draw length.  And keep all the factory stuff on them.  I'm also sure that there's a way to measure the amount of vibe.  I guess the only thing you couldn't test would be the smoothness of the draw cycle.  Maybe get ten people to try the bows out and then get an average rating for each bow. 

The best way to decide which one is the best for you in my opinion is to shoot as many of them as possible before you decide.  I'm sure you already know this.  I don't know why I just said that.  Damnit preaching to the choir is boring. 
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Re: bow tests thus far
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2009, 09:18:11 PM »
I would love to, but we dont carry bowtech.. their customer service was awful at best from what I was told


Come on Paul, you can't beleave every thing you hear, you will never like anything other than Hoyt until you shoot what's not in your shop, I know you get a good deal on bows from hoyt for being on the shooting staff but you'r opinion is biased and you wont be able to give an honest opinion on any other bow thats not sold in your store, get out and shoot all the bows then compare them, not by what other people tell you



the only reason archery world does not carry bowtech is because the cutomer service was crap.. PERIOD.... ask someone other then me next time your in the shop, you will get the same response.. its nothing personal against bowtech.. thier service sucked.. when they would call to get a bow sent back, bowtech always asked what happend to it etc.. basically it was always the bow owners fault.. not the bow, other companys.. when the owner who i wont name on here calld them, they never question.. they all say ok if you looked it over send it back...... also bowtech wont even ship us parts for bows because we dropped them, anyone that comes in has to go to sportsmens to have work done.......

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Re: bow tests thus far
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2009, 09:12:49 AM »
Good write up!  It's nice to hear the bad as well as the good in the reviews.
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Re: bow tests thus far
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2009, 01:48:52 PM »
I wouldnt change from a Switchback XT to the DXT, they are very similar so I would keep what I have.  As far as the Monster is concerned I will shoot it side by side with my XT and then decide.  Not much for the appearance of Hoyts, and dont really like the craftsman ship of the PSE.

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« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2009, 01:54:07 PM »
well they are lighter and faster. The DXT's axle to axle length is shorter also but i haven't found any difference in consistency when shooting at long range. I would never buy a monster! They are smoking fast (an IBO of 360) but all they are is a Hoyt look alike with PSE cams. Mathews should of never made a split limb, dual cam bow.

 


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