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Re: Hunting AR Thread, Built!
« Reply #120 on: January 08, 2017, 06:00:22 PM »
The cantilever scope mount is to put scope off the rail enough to grab your chargeing handle better.but I have both regular rings and his type on my ar's, so it's what ever feels better to you,but they both work just as good .

That actually makes a lot of sense. Mine's a side charger so I guess it's never really been an issue.

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Re: Hunting AR Thread, Built!
« Reply #121 on: January 08, 2017, 06:24:14 PM »
Here is a little better picture to go with your second cup of coffee this morning.

If anyone is interested I'd be happy to provide more information. If you are considering having a build done....AR or bolt I would highly recommend Titan Firearms. They are easy to work with, very straightforward, and frankly I think a little underpriced!


Very, very nice weapon....



How do you like that scope ? I just bought one for me 6.5x284 bolt gun..
« Last Edit: January 08, 2017, 06:32:19 PM by CAMPMEAT »
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Re: Hunting AR Thread, Built!
« Reply #122 on: January 08, 2017, 06:29:30 PM »
Scope is amazing.  Ive got more into the glass than any other gun i own.

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Re: Hunting AR Thread, Built!
« Reply #123 on: January 08, 2017, 06:33:33 PM »
Scope is amazing.  Ive got more into the glass than any other gun i own.




Oh, I know. This is my first real expensive scope...
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Re: Hunting AR Thread, Built!
« Reply #124 on: January 08, 2017, 06:33:56 PM »
My take on cantilever mounts.

They are a necessary evil when using certain optics on AR15's and sometimes AR10's. They allow for proper eye relief and still be able to mount the base to the receiver and not on the HG (which is a big no-no). 

I try to avoid them if at all possible. All I can think of is diving board when I look at them. I'm sure they are just fine like that but it still bugs me.

I don't think they do anything for charging handle use either. A conventional ring setup is the same in that regard. The oversized latches are meant to solve this problem and a sidecharger is the best way around this.


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Re: Hunting AR Thread, Built!
« Reply #125 on: January 08, 2017, 07:18:24 PM »
I agree on the eye relief part , but also raises the scope for people that have a front sight post,and depending on your scopes eye relief you'll find yourself putting your scope over your charging handle.not everybody wants to buy a 100 dollor charge ing handle with oversized handles.

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Re: Hunting AR Thread, Built!
« Reply #126 on: January 08, 2017, 07:25:04 PM »
I agree on the eye relief part , but also raises the scope for people that have a front sight post,and depending on your scopes eye relief you'll find yourself putting your scope over your charging handle.not everybody wants to buy a 100 dollor charge ing handle .

Extended latches are under 20.00 and putting yourself out of position on the rifle is counter productive.

It's best to keep the optic as close to bore centerline as possible. I'm not a big fan of cheek risers and will use scope ring height to give me a good cheek weld on an A2 or SOPMOD stock... but that's just me

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Re: Hunting AR Thread, Built!
« Reply #127 on: January 08, 2017, 07:28:03 PM »
Scope is amazing.  Ive got more into the glass than any other gun i own.

Money well spent. I still like my MK 4 scopes better than my NXS. I'll take the MK 4 over a Vortex PST all day every day!

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Re: Hunting AR Thread, Built!
« Reply #128 on: January 08, 2017, 07:29:10 PM »
The riser on mine is raised just a touch. The builder and I are similiar sized so virtually no ajustment was needed. However, as  i shoot i can mess with things to see what i can improve for fit.

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Re: Hunting AR Thread, Built!
« Reply #129 on: January 08, 2017, 07:34:13 PM »
The riser on mine is raised just a touch. The builder and I are similiar sized so virtually no ajustment was needed. However, as  i shoot i can mess with things to see what i can improve for fit.


Hey, if it's working for you that's all that matters.

I was just trying to give some input for people who wish to build their own rig.


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Re: Hunting AR Thread, Built!
« Reply #130 on: January 08, 2017, 07:37:02 PM »
I agree on the eye relief part , but also raises the scope for people that have a front sight post,and depending on your scopes eye relief you'll find yourself putting your scope over your charging handle.not everybody wants to buy a 100 dollor charge ing handle .

Extended latches are under 20.00 and putting yourself out of position on the rifle is counter productive.

It's best to keep the optic as close to bore centerline as possible. I'm not a big fan of cheek risers and will use scope ring height to give me a good cheek weld on an A2 or SOPMOD stock... but that's just me
You do know your stuff I agree with ya,really on putting scope as close to the bore as possible,ya it all depends on the person and what's gonna fit better for them,if a ar scope mount will help them or not.

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Re: Hunting AR Thread, Built!
« Reply #131 on: January 08, 2017, 07:37:14 PM »
For sure. Thats the fun, makeing something that works for the shooter. Good input.

Side note, my 168gr eld rounds punched a few holes in the plate. One went through and busted the weld on the ring in bsck. Pretty cool.

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Re: Hunting AR Thread, Built!
« Reply #132 on: January 08, 2017, 07:40:03 PM »
H20 you gonna use it to hunt this year.

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Re: Hunting AR Thread, Built!
« Reply #133 on: January 08, 2017, 07:54:52 PM »
Ya I was reading the cold bore thread,sounds like a fun time.

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Re: Hunting AR Thread, Built!
« Reply #134 on: January 08, 2017, 10:45:46 PM »
I agree on the eye relief part , but also raises the scope for people that have a front sight post,and depending on your scopes eye relief you'll find yourself putting your scope over your charging handle.not everybody wants to buy a 100 dollor charge ing handle with oversized handles.

I think I can clear up some confusion here on AR scope mounts.

The purpose of a cantilever scope mount on an AR has nothing to do with the charging handle - it's to prevent having the front ring mounted on the handguard in front of the receiver. With some scopes, that is the only way to mount them correctly with conventional rings, hence the cantilever mount to avoid that.

Most AR15 scope mounts are cantilever style for that reason, although some more than others, and the one pictured is a little more on the extreme side, and doesn't need to be. Aero Precision makes that same mount with less cantilever, which I believe is a little more solid.

Most AR15 scope mounts are also a common height (1.54" IIRC) because that's what works for most people with typical AR15 stocks. Most people can't properly use a scope mounted down low against the rail on an AR because of facial structure, but if mounting it a little lower than standard AR height works for you, then go for it.
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