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Re: Better sight for a Knight muzzleloader?
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2016, 03:10:56 PM »
and to add, a lot of the earlier rifles didn't have windage adjustments on the rear sight/rear peep.  The front sight was dovetailed in.  To sight in for a given round, you would slide the hood off then move the sight through the dovetail until you were on horizontally.  When done, put the hood back on to protect the front sight from being pushed out of alignment.

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Re: Better sight for a Knight muzzleloader?
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2016, 03:30:25 PM »
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/334777/williams-fire-sight-rifle-bead-fiber-optic-red#
Do they make this with a green fiber?y eyes don't see red fober for crap   :chuckle:
Been stopping me from trying this set up

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Re: Better sight for a Knight muzzleloader?
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2016, 03:41:24 PM »
Williams Front Sight Combinations


Two screws for the ramp...  These are from Brownells



962-020-097WB
Streamlined Ramp 3/16" Screw-on
Mfr Part: 1690

I believe Williams says a .375N front sight for this application - I prefer a .343N as it fit closer to center under a fires sight hood.



962-564-360WB
Red Fire Sight fits 375N
Mfr Part: 56436



962-000-016WB
Fire Sight Hood
Mfr Part: 70031

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/128818/williams-fp-legend-receiver-peep-sight-modern-muzzleloading-knight-legend-wolverine-disc-big-horn-american-and-t-bolt-aluminum-black


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Re: Better sight for a Knight muzzleloader?
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2016, 03:52:53 PM »
What is the purpose of the hood?

The hood isn’t needed because your eye instinctively centers the front sight in the peep.  The hood is just a distraction that leads to over thinking.   :twocents:

Have you ever tried one?

Same concept as lining up the peep sight on your bow and the ring around your bow sight.

Yes, it's distracting so I took it off.

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Re: Better sight for a Knight muzzleloader?
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2016, 04:36:29 PM »
Just like leaving some vignette on your scope or

It's like .22 compitition target shooting super simple super accurate. Match the vignettes.

Thanks for the set ups. I have the rear Williams just meet the front


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Re: Better sight for a Knight muzzleloader?
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2016, 05:22:20 PM »
You are in Yelm?  If you want to come to Snoqualmie, you can try my setup.

I have all the stuff sabotloader listed, on my Knight Bighorn.

I definitely cannot do the stock sights   The peep setup works great.

I had to change the front fiber optic to green, because my 62 YO eyes don't see the red in dim light.

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Re: Better sight for a Knight muzzleloader?
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2016, 05:48:57 PM »
Set up for my son a Williams peep in the back and Lyman target globe with Lee Shaver inserts on the front. Super clear picture!

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Re: Better sight for a Knight muzzleloader?
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2016, 05:50:11 PM »
Sorry I can't get pictures to post correctly yet :sry:

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Re: Better sight for a Knight muzzleloader?
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2016, 07:11:08 PM »
Lucky Dog I am thinking about converting my front sight to what you have there.  Just curious how well you like that?  It seems to me you could probably shoot a little farther and more accurately with that front sight.

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Re: Better sight for a Knight muzzleloader?
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2016, 07:38:18 PM »
Love it, very accurate to a long distance with a very clear sight picture. Feels like a scope without the magnification. My 13 year old son shot his buck with it off hand. Combo of some local posts with the williams fp in the back and the lyman target globe in the front, had to go through couple different companies to get the right parts, easy install.

http://www.gohunt.com/read/skills/increased-accuracy-from-an-open-sight-muzzleloader

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Re: Better sight for a Knight muzzleloader?
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2016, 08:58:08 PM »
For those that think the hood might be distracting, I would suggest to do not look at the hood itself - look through the hood to the target.

Also when you mention a Williams Hood make sure you are getting the "Fire Sight" hood not the closed hood.
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Re: Better sight for a Knight muzzleloader?
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2016, 06:50:44 AM »
Lucky Dog,  Yes I read that article, the problem was it was after my elk hunt.  So is that a knight bighorn you have those sights on?  If so what height of a front ram, and globe did you get? I am planning on converting my Bighorn over to this sight system.  I like the fiber optic dot, but it seems difficult to be very accurate 100yds or farther?  Even the tiny dot with a peep or ghost ring covers a lot at a 100yds.

Thanks Buck.

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Re: Better sight for a Knight muzzleloader?
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2016, 08:29:17 AM »
I just ordered the parts and pieces for sabotloaders set up.
I am excited to try it on my new ultra lite. Sabotloader, how do feel the coverage is for that front site at distance? Do you use a six o'clock hold?

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Re: Better sight for a Knight muzzleloader?
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2016, 01:01:23 PM »
I just ordered the parts and pieces for sabotloaders set up.
I am excited to try it on my new ultra lite. Sabotloader, how do feel the coverage is for that front site at distance? Do you use a six o'clock hold?

The front bead at 100 yards does cover 3" but any time I use open sight I use a 6 O'clock hold on the target.  So the object I want to hit is sitting on top of the bead.

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Re: Better sight for a Knight muzzleloader?
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2016, 01:23:33 PM »
Will.have to upgrade to the Globe front sight! Great find! Thanks.
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