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Re: 1" antler point
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2016, 07:36:46 PM »
The whole thing is the point not just the tip and it all needs to be above the ear

Not correct. Reread the regs. Two of the points need to be above the ears, not the fork. All three could sprout from the base as long as two of the points rise above the ears.
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Re: 1" antler point
« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2016, 07:37:46 PM »
Above the ear when ears are up or when ears are down? Top of ear or base of ear? Where does it state that a point is the whole thing and the tip is something different? It's written poorly and clear as mud. I believe the intent is that one of the points cannot be an eye guard but no language exists in the book.

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Re: 1" antler point
« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2016, 07:43:50 PM »
The whole thing is the point not just the tip and it all needs to be above the ear

Not correct. Reread the regs. Two of the points need to be above the ears, not the fork. All three could sprout from the base as long as two of the points rise above the ears.

That is wrong flat out.

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Re: 1" antler point
« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2016, 07:57:38 PM »
This states that an eyeguard is a point when they are at least 1inch long.
I'm not sure your claim that the point has to be above the ear is correct.
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Re: 1" antler point
« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2016, 08:03:02 PM »
Correction:  I'm still reading. More to come.
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Re: 1" antler point
« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2016, 08:03:25 PM »
The whole thing is the point not just the tip and it all needs to be above the ear

Not correct. Reread the regs. Two of the points need to be above the ears, not the fork. All three could sprout from the base as long as two of the points rise above the ears.

This is correct.
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Re: 1" antler point
« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2016, 09:56:12 PM »
It says a point has to be at least 1 inch. You measure from the base to the tip on the long side of the point which is the outside of the point. The rule says that least 2 points have to be above the ear to be legal.

It does not say at least 2 tips of the points have to be above the ear.

You measure and count a point from the branch of the main beam. If 2 are not above the ear in a 3 point unit you will be shooting an illegal bull.

In most cases a bull with 2 eyeguards will have a branch above its ear anyway.

Look at my pictures that I posted. All are 3 points and all are different. But they all have a branch above their ear.

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Re: 1" antler point
« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2016, 03:26:39 AM »
Again I was hoping for some input from one of our wdfw members. But you can see the interpretation of the regs differs from one person to another. The 3 point min on deer probably gets more folks in trouble than elk.
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Re: 1" antler point
« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2016, 10:51:49 AM »
It says a point has to be at least 1 inch. You measure from the base to the tip on the long side of the point which is the outside of the point. The rule says that least 2 points have to be above the ear to be legal.

It does not say at least 2 tips of the points have to be above the ear.

You measure and count a point from the branch of the main beam. If 2 are not above the ear in a 3 point unit you will be shooting an illegal bull.

In most cases a bull with 2 eyeguards will have a branch above its ear anyway.

Look at my pictures that I posted. All are 3 points and all are different. But they all have a branch above their ear.

You are trying to rewrite the law. Nowhere does the law say anything about tips and nowhere does it say the entire branch needs to be above the ears.

It seems pretty clear to me. You are just including stuff in that is not in the law.
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Re: 1" antler point
« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2016, 11:00:28 AM »
This is a great debate on a law that's been in the regs for a couple days or more......... :yike:
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Re: 1" antler point
« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2016, 11:15:55 AM »
My question would be why don't it just say 3 points at least 1" long on at least one side of the antlers.  To say 2 must branch above ear is a joke.  Because I would just lay the ears down and say its above the ears or lay the head tilled backwards and say its above the ear.  Its a dumb rule just make it 3 points and be done with it.

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Re: 1" antler point
« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2016, 11:17:43 AM »
Another interesting question is how "above the ear" is interpreted, because it depends on how you view the antlers. Are they viewed from nose level, or above? The higher the angle, the lower the perceived relation to the ears.
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Re: 1" antler point
« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2016, 11:24:49 AM »
I would interpret it to mean that if I manipulated the ear, I could not touch the point (tip, top, sharp end??!!) with the ear. However, I'm not keen on pulling the trigger based on my interpretation of anything.
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Re: 1" antler point
« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2016, 11:32:42 AM »
This has become quite the science experiment.
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Re: 1" antler point
« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2016, 11:39:39 AM »
My question would be why don't it just say 3 points at least 1" long on at least one side of the antlers.  To say 2 must branch above ear is a joke.  Because I would just lay the ears down and say its above the ears or lay the head tilled backwards and say its above the ear.  Its a dumb rule just make it 3 points and be done with it.


Because they don't want a hunter shooting a spike and thinking he saw eyeguards. That's why at least 2 points have to be above the ear so they are clearly visible and then you only have to confirm 1 eyeguard to be legal.

People are making it way to complicated. With the responses about ear up or ear down. I showed pictures of what 3 point bulls look like. Someone show me a 3 point that would actually be confusing to judge in the field with our regs the way they are written.

 


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