Game Warden in Hancock Eatonville opening morning

[fishngamereaper]

I guess I just don't see why anyone has concerns for what any Leo,s or wardens do on THEIR own time?? Doesn't make sense to me one bit !!! I wouldn't want someone questioning my private off duty time..

On their own time using state vehicles?  Who pays for the gas   If all expenses are covered and not on our dime it's not an issue.  I still do not understand why they cannot conduct checkpoints around these areas, it would cover more hunters instead of a select few.  GO TRUMP

You wont see check points in WA. Imagine the uproar from the violating my rights crowd. And you can thank the WA Supreme court and the 9th circuit for that.

[ballpark]

I guess I just don't see why anyone has concerns for what any Leo,s or wardens do on THEIR own time?? Doesn't make sense to me one bit !!! I wouldn't want someone questioning my private off duty time..

On their own time using state vehicles?  Who pays for the gas   If all expenses are covered and not on our dime it's not an issue.  I still do not understand why they cannot conduct checkpoints around these areas, it would cover more hunters instead of a select few.  GO TRUMP

You wont see check points in WA. Imagine the uproar from the violating my rights crowd. And you can thank the WA Supreme court and the 9th circuit for that.

Maybe checkpoints is the wrong term - Registration or Survey stations to document game kills.

[bigtex]

I guess I just don't see why anyone has concerns for what any Leo,s or wardens do on THEIR own time?? Doesn't make sense to me one bit !!! I wouldn't want someone questioning my private off duty time..

On their own time using state vehicles?  Who pays for the gas   If all expenses are covered and not on our dime it's not an issue.

The benefitting agency/company (in this case the timber company) pays for salary, benefits, vehicle costs, and other associated expenses.

[fireweed]

I guess I just don't see why anyone has concerns for what any Leo,s or wardens do on THEIR own time?? Doesn't make sense to me one bit !!! I wouldn't want someone questioning my private off duty time..

On their own time using state vehicles?  Who pays for the gas   If all expenses are covered and not on our dime it's not an issue.  I still do not understand why they cannot conduct checkpoints around these areas, it would cover more hunters instead of a select few.  GO TRUMP

You wont see check points in WA. Imagine the uproar from the violating my rights crowd. And you can thank the WA Supreme court and the 9th circuit for that.

But on private land the private corporation can do anything they want and impose any rules they want.  The way it looks now, with public LEO's in bed with timber companies, the company can make up any rules, and if a person breaks those rules (even a permit holder) then they are trespassers, and the force of state law can come down on them. 

Weyco could enforce these  corporate policies on permit holders, and deem any one who breaks these rules are "trespassers" subject to prosecution: no pistols; no pets; no smoking; hard hats must be worn outside of vehicles; no cell phones,  and because the WDFW is right there to enforce Weyco policy, breaking these rules could make you a trespasser.  Take a few internal Weyerhaeuser policies, like no guns.  Of course they will allow rifles, but they could ban concealed carry, or pistols, or firearms not during any firearm hunting season.  Company policy doesn't allow cell phones to be used at all in vehicles, and employees cannot leave their vehicles without hardhat and orange vest.  What if they extended that policy to permit holders, with bought-and-paid for state LEO's now checking for these violations of company policy, and deeming anyone not complying a "trespasser".  Giving private corporations full discretion determine which corporate rules must be followed, then having state LEO's enforce those rules via trespassing, is extremely scary policy.    Someone may say, "you don't have to buy the permit" but in some places, the timber companies have a virtual monopoly on land and access, so the leverage they have is incredible.

[Drifterat]

Great arguments on both sides. I spent all day yesterday hunting out of Ashford, and all day hunting the Capital Forest today. Never saw any LEO either day. If I'd hunted the corporate owned Vail tree farm how many would I've seen there?

Our state employees should not be big business muscle.

[Mudman]

Great arguments on both sides. I spent all day yesterday hunting out of Ashford, and all day hunting the Capital Forest today. Never saw any LEO either day. If I'd hunted the corporate owned Vail tree farm how many would I've seen there?

Our state employees should not be big business muscle.

EXACTLY the point.  It is a conflicting issue.  Weyco can hire its own and public LEO can do their job serving the PUBLIC!  Weyco charges us to pay leo's.  Clintonesque.