Game Wardens in Vail for WEYCO?

[workstohunt]

I ran into a game Warden in Vail on Pigeon springs side. Never asked to see hunting license just WEYCO permits as we had 3 adults and 2 kids.
Found it strange.
Did anyone else get checked??

[jackelope]

There is another thread on here somewhere on this very topic I believe.

[jackelope]

Different timber company ground I guess.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,202972.msg2695608.html#msg2695608

[deerhunter_98520]

I've been checked twice in weyco tree farms by wardens for my license and tags and didn't ask about weyco permits but I had mine hanging off the mirror also

[washingtonhunter121]

Been stopped once per yr in pl south permit area by a warden patrolling. Asked for permit and all licenses etc both times

[workstohunt]

I wasn't concerned about being checked, just that the emphasis was the WEYCO permit.
I have not heard of a problem. It seems that everyone you meet has a permit. The first couple of years it seemed to be a problem but since has cleared up.
Curious what they do if they didn't have a permit.

[JeffRaines]

I've never ran into a game warden hunting or fishing ever. I figured I'd for sure see one in vail but haven't yet.

[brew]

I wasn't concerned about being checked, just that the emphasis was the WEYCO permit.
I have not heard of a problem. It seems that everyone you meet has a permit. The first couple of years it seemed to be a problem but since has cleared up.
Curious what they do if they didn't have a permit.

before the permits were issued if you drove through an open gate on the weekday when it said it was only open to motorized hunting on the weekends they gave out $1,000 tresspass fines and banned you from hunting their lands for 2 years (happened to someone i knew)...i have the vail permit and a couple years back was stopped by the same warden 2x in one day to check my license and make sure my firearm wasn't loaded.  the second time i could see his truck parked in a turn out up the road from me and as i drove by he came charging out of the brush flagging me down to check.  that time he saw my rifle leaning on the floorboard up against the passenger seat with the action open.  he then asked if i had any other firearms in the truck and i told him i had a loaded pistol in my backpack on the back seat...he opened up the rear door, unzipped my back pack and said "yup its loaded".  he shut the door and told me good luck with the hunting

[trophyelk6x6]

I ran into a game warden checking on who had firewood permits in a Green Diamond permit area. So was he working for GD? Hopefully not in his state issued gear/truck. This happened last year near Mason Lake fire station.  If they issue a ticket for something like no permit on land or what ever who gets paid the money? Why are they doing this work when I know GD/Simpson Timber Co. employs several retired game wardens as their security men. 

[Goshawk]

Wish I could have met him/her. I'd like to report a couple batches of DNR Public land that is landlocked by Jorgenson Lumber Co.  Yea, I know it's not illegal to do so, Just wish our DNR Lands Manager would stop selling and trading western Washington local land for the east side stuff.

[Ghunt]

They had 4 wardens at the WEYCO land up by Granite Falls opening day

[wapiti hunter2]

I ran into a warden on opening morning of Modern deer. At the corner of the 1000 rd and Skookumchuck. I asked him if he wanted to check anything and he said no.   He just said have a good day and away we went.

[scrapperdude]

Last year every time I was checked, which was 2-3 times a day they only checked my Weyco permit, never once checked my hunting license.

[fireweed]

Game wardens and other public employees--even those being hired out by private companies--should not be enforcing access permits.  If the land is open to any kind of public access (permit or otherwise) then everyone they encounter should be assumed to be there legally, and their policy should be to check for game violations.  If the land is totally locked up, then check for poachers and trespassers.  But this corporate obstacle course of open to the select few, lease on one side of the road/permit on the other, or Columbia Timberlands permit in one sections/ St. Helens permit in another, or children under 18 are ok but over need their own paperwork, --none of this should  be enforced by state employees with violations actual crimes.  Its ridiculous and un-American.

[Cylvertip]

With the Hunting while trespassing law in affect, WDFG has a stake in the game.  Fine by me.  I am sure those of you who have antee'd up for permits appreciate it too.

In 2012 the WA legislature approved RCW 77.15.435 which makes it unlawful to hunt on, or retrieve wildlife from the property of another without landowner permission.

The law was enacted because while trespassing has always been illegal, with no fish and wildlife law pertaining to trespassing while hunting officers could not seize wildlife/gear if the only violation was trespass. Essentially, you should shoot a 6x6 bull while trespassing, and as long as no wildlife laws were broken you could not have the elk or gear seized. The creation of this law changed that and now requires officers to seize wildlife taken in violation of this law.

This law only pertains to hunting. So as of now officers cant seize fish, shellfish, or gear taken while trespassing, if again, the only violation is trespass.

FISHING WHILE TRESPASSING IS ALREADY ILLEGAL. THE ONLY THING THIS LAW CHANGED, AND WOULD CHANGE IS THAT OFFICERS CAN SEIZE FISH, SHELLFISH, AND/OR GEAR IF YOU ARE TRESPASSING. YOU CAN BE PROSECUTED TODAY FOR TRESPASSING IF YOU ARE FISHING, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER TRESPASSING VIOLATION, HOWEVER NO GEAR/FISH CAN BE SEIZED.

[fireweed]

With the Hunting while trespassing law in affect, WDFG has a stake in the game.  Fine by me.  I am sure those of you who have antee'd up for permits appreciate it too.

In 2012 the WA legislature approved RCW 77.15.435 which makes it unlawful to hunt on, or retrieve wildlife from the property of another without landowner permission.

The law was enacted because while trespassing has always been illegal, with no fish and wildlife law pertaining to trespassing while hunting officers could not seize wildlife/gear if the only violation was trespass. Essentially, you should shoot a 6x6 bull while trespassing, and as long as no wildlife laws were broken you could not have the elk or gear seized. The creation of this law changed that and now requires officers to seize wildlife taken in violation of this law.

This law only pertains to hunting. So as of now officers cant seize fish, shellfish, or gear taken while trespassing, if again, the only violation is trespass.

FISHING WHILE TRESPASSING IS ALREADY ILLEGAL. THE ONLY THING THIS LAW CHANGED, AND WOULD CHANGE IS THAT OFFICERS CAN SEIZE FISH, SHELLFISH, AND/OR GEAR IF YOU ARE TRESPASSING. YOU CAN BE PROSECUTED TODAY FOR TRESPASSING IF YOU ARE FISHING, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER TRESPASSING VIOLATION, HOWEVER NO GEAR/FISH CAN BE SEIZED.

Funny how this law was passed just BEORE all the access permits started.  WDFW walked right into it....

[brew]

Game wardens and other public employees--even those being hired out by private companies--should not be enforcing access permits.  If the land is open to any kind of public access (permit or otherwise) then everyone they encounter should be assumed to be there legally, and their policy should be to check for game violations.  If the land is totally locked up, then check for poachers and trespassers.  But this corporate obstacle course of open to the select few, lease on one side of the road/permit on the other, or Columbia Timberlands permit in one sections/ St. Helens permit in another, or children under 18 are ok but over need their own paperwork, --none of this should  be enforced by state employees with violations actual crimes.  Its ridiculous and un-American.

game wardens are a law enforcement agency with the state and they can cite you for any violation they want--from traffic fines to domestic violence to poaching a bull elk...it was said by a Game Warden that came to our Hunter Education class that we were instructing that if they thought that you might be thinking of violating any of the state's laws that they could pull you over and reasonably search you...their jurisdiction superceeds anything