INITIATIVE - 1491

[Colin]

Thoughts?

[Mike450r]

I am voting NO.  This can and will be abused by vengeful people and overzealous or anti gun cops and judges without much in the way of recourse.

Section 13 states it is only a misdemeanor for somebody to falsely report an at risk person.

Section 16 does not impose any criminal or civil liability beyond what is indicated in section 13.

Falsely reporting an at risk person which will undoubtedly be done should be a felony and if it is shown that any agent of the government abused their power it should be a civil rights violation with criminal and civil penalties.

[huntnphool]

 It's a violation of rights. Your girlfriend/wife can give a false statement saying you are mentally confused, or depressed etc. and without so much as a evaluation, a judge can order all your guns seized.

 Vote NO!

[huntnphool]

I am voting NO.  This can and will be abused by vengeful people and overzealous or anti gun cops and judges without much in the way of recourse.

Section 13 states it is only a misdemeanor for somebody to falsely report an at risk person.

Section 16 does not impose any criminal or civil liability beyond what is indicated in section 13.

Falsely reporting an at risk person which will undoubtedly be done should be a felony and if it is shown that any agent of the government abused their power it should be a civil rights violation with criminal and civil penalties.

 Correct........meanwhile, your guns have been seized and now it's up to the courts, yes you will have to pay a attorney and fight, to get them back, while you prove you are not mentally ill rather than them proving you are.

 Bad Bad Legistlation!

[JimmyHoffa]

You know it's bad when the NRA and the ACLU are both against it.

[Colin]

Remind anyone of Minority Report?

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[Mike450r]

This is a veiled gun grab.  What about taking vehicles or any combustion engines and any hoses that could connect to the exhaust?  Taking all potential toxins/poisons? Knives?  Ropes?  Chairs?  Ladders? 

It is too easy to see through to even give a benefit of the doubt that their hearts are in the right place.

[Cougartail]

Taking away your rights without a trial??? Can anybody say "Slippery Slope" What's next, "I think he's dangerous, better lock him up for a few years".

[Henrydog]

No question this is a No Vote.  Nazi Germany comes to mind, I would not be surprised when Olympia sponsors book burnings as well

[Zardoz]

No question this is a No Vote.  Nazi Germany comes to mind, I would not be surprised when Olympia sponsors book burnings as well

   Next session...................

[quarterstaff]

No question this is a No Vote.  Nazi Germany comes to mind, I would not be surprised when Olympia sponsors book burnings as well

Maybe not books but if Hillary wins Hannity, Limbaugh, or any other non Socialist/Communist radio host  might be looking for a job.

[Mudman]

Total socialism.  Gun grab.  Sad thing is it has a chance in Wa.  This election will rely heavy on turnout.  Please vote.

[WAcoyotehunter]

What would you guys support then? 

Every time someone shoots the hell out of a crowd everybody (me included) says it wasn't the guns fault, it was the fault of the crazy person.  So, what should we do to keep guns away from people that should not have them?
 

[Fungunnin]

What would you guys support then? 

Every time someone shoots the hell out of a crowd everybody (me included) says it wasn't the guns fault, it was the fault of the crazy person.  So, what should we do to keep guns away from people that should not have them?
 

I will not vote for a single piece of anti gun legislation regardless of how it is written until we enforce the laws we currently have.
NICS denies over 90,000 individuals a year for attempting to illegally buy a gun. Police need to take that list and start knocking on doors. I guarantee they will find people who are prohibited from ownership in possession of guns.

Once that list is gone through every year and every felon/domestic abuser that attempts to buy a gun is arrested and their home striped of illegal guns then we can talk about adding more laws.

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[huntnphool]

What would you guys support then? 

Every time someone shoots the hell out of a crowd everybody (me included) says it wasn't the guns fault, it was the fault of the crazy person.  So, what should we do to keep guns away from people that should not have them?
 

 Support the constitution, there is nothing you can do to prevent that.

 This is bad legistlation period! What would you suggest, WAcoyote, to keep Mercedes vans out of the hands of people intent on running people down with it?