Author Topic: I saw a fallow deer in Vail today.... Shoot or no shoot??? (Read 17493 times)

Igottanewknee · « **on:** October 23, 2016, 08:08:13 PM »

I was on the 2090 road and ran into a rig parked at a clear cut. They signaled me to stop, and asked me " is that a deer or an elk?" I looked and could not believe what I saw. It was a fallow deer, with the spots and palmated horns. It's a deer... could we have shot it? Definitely not a animal that belongs there. I have a very bad picture, but the people who got the good picture said they would text me the photos they had... don't have them yet, but I promise you, I know what I saw.... Again, shoot or no?

TikkaT3-270Shortmag · « **Reply #1 on:** October 23, 2016, 08:18:07 PM »

I believe its legal. But dont quote me lol

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jackelope · « **Reply #2 on:** October 23, 2016, 08:18:38 PM »

The regs are specific to blacktail, mule deer and whitetail seasons. Not just deer season. I'm not sure what the regs are but I definitely would not shoot it just because it's a deer.

JimmyHoffa · « **Reply #3 on:** October 23, 2016, 08:20:08 PM »

unclassified/exotic wildlife, I believe you are weapons free on that thing.

Katmai Guy · « **Reply #4 on:** October 23, 2016, 08:21:57 PM »

bobcat · « **Reply #5 on:** October 23, 2016, 08:24:57 PM »

You could shoot it but don't need to put your tag on it.

Igottanewknee · « **Reply #6 on:** October 23, 2016, 08:25:31 PM »

Quote from: JimmyHoffa on October 23, 2016, 08:20:08 PM

unclassified/exotic wildlife, I believe you are weapons free on that thing.

Kind of what I thought..... I'm thinking shoot!!!! Maybe someone else will see it and then we'll have something to talk about...

Hilltop123 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 23, 2016, 08:32:22 PM »

Should have killed it, exotic deer brought the lice here, that caused the hair loss problems.

jagermiester · « **Reply #8 on:** October 23, 2016, 08:34:12 PM »

You might want to make sure it's not someone's pet.

elkinrutdrivemenuts · « **Reply #9 on:** October 23, 2016, 08:43:29 PM »

Tag for pics

PastorJoel · « **Reply #10 on:** October 23, 2016, 08:48:53 PM »

Should probably call the fish and game people, no?

Old Man Yager · « **Reply #11 on:** October 23, 2016, 08:57:46 PM »

Used to be a bunch of them running around out by Weyerhauser Elementary school in Eatonville. That was like 20 years ago, maybe they made there way to Vail

PolarBear · « **Reply #12 on:** October 23, 2016, 09:05:26 PM »

There was a fallow buck on Bean road in Rainier a few days ago. My daughter has a pic of it. I was up the 2090 this afternoon. Wish I would have seen it, it would be hanging in my barn right now. My daughter wanted to shoot it when she saw it. She is asleep now but I will get a pic of it from her in the morning.

bowhunterwa87 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 23, 2016, 09:15:35 PM »

That would be awesome to see. I have always wanted to hunt one.

PolarBear · « **Reply #14 on:** October 23, 2016, 09:18:36 PM »

Anyone remember when about a half dozen of Buster Smith's bison got loose and were running free between Bucoda and the Steam Plant?

PolarBear · « **Reply #15 on:** October 24, 2016, 09:57:50 AM »

This is a pic that my daughter took by the Silver Springs Ranch the other day. Does it look like the one in Vail?

pianoman9701 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 24, 2016, 10:01:47 AM »

I'd have dropped it and thrown it in the rig.

yakimarcher · « **Reply #17 on:** October 24, 2016, 10:22:03 AM »

Crazy, pretty cool that there are some of those running around. i would love to shoot one some day!

krout81 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 24, 2016, 10:52:36 AM »

Shoot shoot shoot. No regs for fallow deer I'm killing it.

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jackmaster · « **Reply #19 on:** October 24, 2016, 10:55:11 AM »

There use to be a small heard running around behind the dump on meridian where lipoma fir golf course is, they have been killed off over time, completely legal to kill them anytime of year

Rainier10 · « **Reply #20 on:** October 24, 2016, 11:11:42 AM »

scrapperdude · « **Reply #21 on:** October 24, 2016, 11:20:40 AM »

I'll be there this weekend and late buck, good info to have I'll drop it if I see it.

LDennis24 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 24, 2016, 11:28:45 AM »

Unless it's someone's pet I think someone need's to drop that thing! I would report it to WDFW to see if a local person lost one and if hasn't been reported... then it'll be interesting table fare!

Bantams · « **Reply #23 on:** October 24, 2016, 01:14:17 PM »

IF it is a fallow deer that escaped, it could be a very valuable animal. But if it's not tame I have no idea how they could get it back.
I personally would try to get the word out that there is a loose fallow deer (sheriff's department, animal control, etc) first. To me it would be like shooting an escaped cow...

. I've personally had cows/steers get out from time to time and it's a very scary thing (even when it's just a little down the road from our farm). If someone shot my cow I would be devastated!

Duckgtr · « **Reply #24 on:** October 24, 2016, 01:20:10 PM »

Maybe that one fallow deer started the whole hoof rot epidemic

DOUBLELUNG · « **Reply #25 on:** October 24, 2016, 03:02:48 PM »

FWIW, they are delicious. We had Christmas in England about 20 years ago, my English aunt bought 1/2 a fallow buck for me to cook. Lighter than American deer, between venison and pork in color - very mild, great flavor, tender.

elkinrutdrivemenuts · « **Reply #26 on:** October 24, 2016, 04:45:25 PM »

Let them go crazy and breed, then we can have a hunt-able population.

Stumps · « **Reply #27 on:** October 24, 2016, 09:31:49 PM »

Just got texted a pic of one in the bed of a pickup. The way it was told to me the Game Warden said it was most likely some sort of hybrid. No issue shooting. Not my kill, can't post it.

PolarBear · « **Reply #28 on:** October 24, 2016, 10:22:45 PM »

Was it in the back of a blue Chevy pick up? A local guy shot it yesterday.

Igottanewknee · « **Reply #29 on:** October 25, 2016, 07:11:24 AM »

It was tame enough. The couple that saw it before I rolled up said it stood on the road and watched them watching him.... Still, in the middle of nowhere... Wish I would have pulled the trigger.

Wish that couple would have sent me the pictures they took.

LDennis24 · « **Reply #30 on:** October 25, 2016, 08:19:35 AM »

Pics or it didn't happen.

PolarBear · « **Reply #31 on:** October 25, 2016, 08:35:11 AM »

Quote from: Igottanewknee on October 25, 2016, 07:11:24 AM

It was tame enough. The couple that saw it before I rolled up said it stood on the road and watched them watching him.... Still, in the middle of nowhere... Wish I would have pulled the trigger.
Wish that couple would have sent me the pictures they took.

Did it look like the pic that I posted on the first page of this thread? My daughter took that pic about 8-10 miles as the crow flies from where the buck was shot. With the terrain, it could have easily gotten in Vail within a few days. Just curious if there is more than one roaming around these parts. If it was someone's pet, not sure that I would eat it. You have now way of knowing what kind of medicatons it might have running through it.

alwaysontop · « **Reply #32 on:** October 25, 2016, 08:53:49 AM »

No, it did happen. I don't have permission to show so I won't show. Yes a farrow like deer was taken.

Stumps · « **Reply #33 on:** October 25, 2016, 10:27:06 AM »

Quote from: PolarBear on October 24, 2016, 10:22:45 PM

Was it in the back of a blue Chevy pick up? A local guy shot it yesterday.

Could be, picture was after dark and the is a canopy on the truck.

YoungFowler · « **Reply #34 on:** October 25, 2016, 04:44:56 PM »

Wow cool! Washington State calls them a "Deleterious exotic wildlife." So I think that means they're shootable.

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WAC 232-12-017

Deleterious exotic wildlife.

(1) The following animals are hereby designated as deleterious exotic wildlife:
(a) Birds:
In the family Anatidae, the mute swan (Cygnus olor).
(b) Mammals:
(i) In the family Viverridae, the mongoose (all members of the genus Herpestes).
(ii) In the family Suidae, the wild boar (Sus scrofa and all wild hybrids).
(iii) In the family Tayassuidae, the collared peccary (javelina) (Tayassu tajacu).
(iv) In the family Bovidae, all members and hybrids of the following genera: Rupicapra (Chamois); Hemitragus (Tahr); Capra (goats, ibexes except domestic goat Capra (hircus); Ammotragus (Barbary sheep or Aoudad); Ovis (sheep), except domestic sheep Ovis aries; Damaliscus (Sassabies); Alcelaphus buselaphus (Hartebeest); and Connochaetes (Wildebeests).
(v) In the family Cervidae, the European red deer (Cervus elaphus elaphus), all nonnative subspecies of Cervus elaphus, and all hybrids with North American elk; Fallow deer (Dama dama), Axis deer (Axis axis), Rusa deer or Sambar deer (Cervus unicolor, Cervus timorensis, Cervus mariannus and Cervus alfredi), Sika deer (Cervus Nippon), Reindeer (all members of the Genus Rangifer except Rangifer tarandus caribou), and Roedeer (all members of the Genus Capreolus).

jrebel · « **Reply #35 on:** October 25, 2016, 04:49:30 PM »

I have a pic on FB of a dead Fallow as well. Not sure who shot it or what the story is....I am waiting for a reply from a family friend to find out more. Pretty little sucker.

BNAElkhntr · « **Reply #36 on:** October 25, 2016, 05:54:50 PM »

Hope the Guy Didn't use his deer tag

Stumps · « **Reply #37 on:** October 25, 2016, 07:41:12 PM »

Quote from: BNAElkhntr on October 25, 2016, 05:54:50 PM

Hope the Guy Didn't use his deer tag

The one I saw was tagged.

jackmaster · « **Reply #38 on:** October 26, 2016, 02:41:21 PM »

Off topic but years ago some dipstick shot a dudes mule and put his cow elk permit on it

it happened out by mossy rock, the dude was so excited to roll into the game check, needless to say the game check station and the wardens had a good one with that fool!!

millerwheeler · « **Reply #39 on:** October 28, 2016, 05:48:55 PM »

Any more word on this had a guy tell me dozens of times he has seen them behind his property in granite falls just thought he was talking crazy

Goshawk · « **Reply #40 on:** October 28, 2016, 07:03:34 PM »

I'm not into shooting people's pets, even when they are off their property.

Igottanewknee · « **Reply #41 on:** October 28, 2016, 07:20:05 PM »

If I see it this weekend, I'm shooting it!!!! It's probably spreading lice and hoof rot as we speak.....

Goshawk · « **Reply #42 on:** October 28, 2016, 07:42:12 PM »

When I talked to the state big game vet years ago, he told me it was alpacas that brought in the lice that's causing deer hair loss. Has that changed?

PolarBear · « **Reply #43 on:** October 28, 2016, 09:07:20 PM »

Quote from: Igottanewknee on October 28, 2016, 07:20:05 PM

If I see it this weekend, I'm shooting it!!!! It's probably spreading lice and hoof rot as we speak.....

Already dead. Shot by a local. I have a pic of it in the road on my phone.

jrebel · « **Reply #44 on:** October 28, 2016, 09:13:08 PM »

Quote from: PolarBear on October 28, 2016, 09:07:20 PM

Quote from: Igottanewknee on October 28, 2016, 07:20:05 PM
If I see it this weekend, I'm shooting it!!!! It's probably spreading lice and hoof rot as we speak.....
Already dead. Shot by a local. I have a pic of it in the road on my phone.

Had to be the same pic that was posted on fb....why did they delete it from fb?

BULLBLASTER · « **Reply #45 on:** October 28, 2016, 09:14:08 PM »

Man I want to see the pic! I saw lots of fallow deer in New Zealand and wanted to hunt one but didn't have the cash.

Might as well just post "he's dead".

Birdguy · « **Reply #46 on:** October 28, 2016, 09:31:41 PM »

Call the game dept. the permits required to own them would be easy to track. I bet they will tell you to SHOOT! I am pretty sure the hair slip and lice issues have been traced to fallow deer.

Goshawk · « **Reply #47 on:** October 29, 2016, 11:46:55 AM »

They have not.

youngblood · « **Reply #48 on:** November 10, 2016, 06:43:27 PM »

further reiterate, it's dead i've seen the photo. Some *censored* got super lucky.

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