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Re: Where to buy a suppressor?
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2016, 10:02:12 PM »
I'm wanting one that can handle my 7.5" barrel 556 pistol all the way up to my 300 win mag. Is there a suppressor able to handle that?.

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Re: Where to buy a suppressor?
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2016, 10:12:54 PM »
Yes plenty however the sound suppression with not be as great running a 30 cal can on a 223/556.

I have a 22 centerfire and 30 centerfire both same brand if you slap the 30 on it does not do nearly as good of job as the 22. Which is to be expected with a smaller bullet going down a larger bore opening in the 30.
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Re: Where to buy a suppressor?
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2016, 01:21:49 AM »
Yes plenty however the sound suppression with not be as great running a 30 cal can on a 223/556.

I have a 22 centerfire and 30 centerfire both same brand if you slap the 30 on it does not do nearly as good of job as the 22. Which is to be expected with a smaller bullet going down a larger bore opening in the 30.

Makes sense, wonder of someone makes one that you can change the size of the cap on the end?

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Re: Where to buy a suppressor?
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2016, 01:25:17 AM »
I have a threaded barrel on my 6.5 I hope the new strong republican fed really makes suppressors as easy as they say. I want one
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Re: Where to buy a suppressor?
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2016, 06:32:30 PM »
Yes plenty however the sound suppression with not be as great running a 30 cal can on a 223/556.

I have a 22 centerfire and 30 centerfire both same brand if you slap the 30 on it does not do nearly as good of job as the 22. Which is to be expected with a smaller bullet going down a larger bore opening in the 30.

Makes sense, wonder of someone makes one that you can change the size of the cap on the end?

The baffles on the inside as well as the exit hole would all have to change size to be more effective. So not sure it anyone has ever designed one like that. Not that i have seen but i sure havent seen it all.
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Re: Where to buy a suppressor?
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2016, 06:35:19 PM »

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Re: Where to buy a suppressor?
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2016, 07:24:50 PM »
Yes plenty however the sound suppression with not be as great running a 30 cal can on a 223/556.

I have a 22 centerfire and 30 centerfire both same brand if you slap the 30 on it does not do nearly as good of job as the 22. Which is to be expected with a smaller bullet going down a larger bore opening in the 30.

Makes sense, wonder of someone makes one that you can change the size of the cap on the end?

Zak with TBAC was asked this awhile back on a different forum and here's what he had to say about it.

"We've looked into it, and even built a prototype. It's not worth it. Here's why:
To support threads on the endcap, the end of the tube would have to be larger, or we'd have to use thicker tube, IE, bulk it up.
It would also add considerable weight vs. the current Ultra design
The suppression difference would be extremely slight. Consider that a dedicated 6.5 Ultra 9 is only about 3 dB quieter than a .30 cal Ultra 9 when shot on a .260, and to get that difference, the 6.5 Ultra 9 has a complete baffle stack cut to 6.5 mm. Changing only the endcap is going to only give you a fraction of that difference, so we're looking at "maybe" 1 dB difference-- maybe. That's less than the standard deviation you get when metering as string of shots.
We don't really do gimmicks. Compromising one of the core benefits of the Ultra series (extreme light weight and suppression in a given size) just so an endcap with a smaller hole can be used, when the difference in suppression in the non-typical application is basically nil, would be a gimmick. If what you want is the best suppression with the least weight added, even if we only made a .30 cal Ultra 9, you would literally have better performance over those two factors using the .30 Ultra 9 on a .260 (or .223, etc) than if we made a switch-endcap version of the same."

I have a few TBAC suppressors and a couple SAS suppressors, both are extremely high quality, have minimal POI shift and all my guns shoot just as good with them screwed on the end as they do bare.  Whenever I've had a question about a TBAC can I have always been connected straight through to Zak or Ray.  SAS makes a very good can as well but every time I call or email I have to leave multiple messages or send multiple emails to get a response.  With the exception of a Dead Air Ghost pistol suppressor I'm still waiting on, TBAC is all I buy now.

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Re: Where to buy a suppressor?
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2016, 01:44:30 PM »
Yes plenty however the sound suppression with not be as great running a 30 cal can on a 223/556.

I have a 22 centerfire and 30 centerfire both same brand if you slap the 30 on it does not do nearly as good of job as the 22. Which is to be expected with a smaller bullet going down a larger bore opening in the 30.

Makes sense, wonder of someone makes one that you can change the size of the cap on the end?

The baffles on the inside as well as the exit hole would all have to change size to be more effective. So not sure it anyone has ever designed one like that. Not that i have seen but i sure havent seen it all.

Not necessarily. Silencerco makes several models that have this capability, the Omega is a very popular choice.

Also, a lot of people report that 30 cal suppressors are just as quiet on 223, or even more so than a dedicated can, because the 30 cal cans are often larger with more internal volume.

A lot of it just depends on your suppressor, and how efficient it is.

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Re: Where to buy a suppressor?
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2016, 01:53:10 PM »
I have seen a lot of videos with sound measuring equipment. I have never seen a larger diameter can beat a suppressor made for the host weapon. I can tell you with the 20 plus can's I have shot personally I have always noticed the bigger can being louder. Just my experience.
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Re: Where to buy a suppressor?
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2016, 02:10:44 PM »
TL/DR.

OP: If your needs permit, you may want to consider waiting a while. Some rumors floating about that suppressors might make their way off the NFA during the Trump Administration, which could save you the $200 cost of the tax stamp.

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Re: Where to buy a suppressor?
« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2016, 03:32:07 PM »
I have seen a lot of videos with sound measuring equipment. I have never seen a larger diameter can beat a suppressor made for the host weapon. I can tell you with the 20 plus can's I have shot personally I have always noticed the bigger can being louder. Just my experience.

You can claim your experience, but you didn't know that one of the most popular suppressor manufacturers out there (Silencerco) makes smaller caliber end caps. They aren't the only ones either; if you've paid attention to the suppressor industry the last few years it would be pretty hard to miss that. You might not know or have seen everything out there, just sayin'.

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Re: Where to buy a suppressor?
« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2016, 03:51:34 PM »
I have seen a lot of videos with sound measuring equipment. I have never seen a larger diameter can beat a suppressor made for the host weapon. I can tell you with the 20 plus can's I have shot personally I have always noticed the bigger can being louder. Just my experience.

You can claim your experience, but you didn't know that one of the most popular suppressor manufacturers out there (Silencerco) makes smaller caliber end caps. They aren't the only ones either; if you've paid attention to the suppressor industry the last few years it would be pretty hard to miss that. You might not know or have seen everything out there, just sayin'.

I've read where people "thought" a larger volume can, made for a bigger caliber, sounded quieter to the ear, but I've never read where a mil spec test was done that backed up those claims and of the tests I've read the caliber specific suppressor was always a little quieter. 

Our ears often play tricks on us and we hear certain tones louder than others.  Sometimes they'll even do these test on multiple cans and everyone will swear a particular can was the quietest but the meter will say it wasn't.  I've shot with a few different suppressors and I can tell you first hand, even when they are the same caliber, they don't all have the same tone to the ear.

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Re: Where to buy a suppressor?
« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2016, 04:19:53 PM »
 :yeah: yep.

You should slow down and read yondering. What I said is "The baffles on the inside as well as the exit hole would all have to change size to be more effective. So not sure if anyone has ever designed one like that"

Never did I say I haven't seen a suppressor that can have different end caps. I said I have never seen one that does both that would make it more effective.

However I do have more experience with suppressors then the avg joe out there. If you think it is just a quiet or better then great. However all the facts from the actual real world testing I have seen. Has proven otherwise.

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Re: Where to buy a suppressor?
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2016, 05:09:23 PM »
:yeah: yep.

You should slow down and read yondering. What I said is "The baffles on the inside as well as the exit hole would all have to change size to be more effective. So not sure if anyone has ever designed one like that"

So, you're saying the 5.56 end caps on the Omega, Saker, etc don't make them quieter than the 30 cal end caps? The test data says otherwise.

Your post is either really bad communication, or just plain bad info. That's not very helpful to the OP, who specifically asked about suppressors with interchangeable end caps, which are available and effective, and becoming fairly common.

If you're going to pretend to be an expert, you better expect to get called on bad information. It's very telling whether you can admit you were wrong, or just take another side step to argue about it.

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Re: Where to buy a suppressor?
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2016, 05:13:12 PM »
You are so all over the place. You don't even know what the OP means. The OP of this thread asked about the process of buying a suppressor LOL. Not about end caps.

My advise was to another person in the thread not the OP and was spot on. What I said is a 30 cal can is not as effective as a 22 cal can on a 22 cal rifle. That is a fact.

Quit twisting stuff and learn how to read what was said.
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