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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #135 on: November 29, 2016, 08:53:39 PM »
Trophyhunt, can you stick ur nose up plats butt any further? Lol

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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #136 on: November 29, 2016, 08:56:45 PM »
Anyone that thinks a Glock is better than a 1911 paints his toenails.
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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #137 on: November 29, 2016, 08:57:57 PM »
Some of you are classy.

What's goes around comes around. :dunno:

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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #138 on: November 29, 2016, 09:15:12 PM »
Some of you are classy.

What's goes around comes around. :dunno:
Nice!  You could let him RIP. 

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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #139 on: November 29, 2016, 09:20:22 PM »
There were 7 rifle hunters walking get around the desert unit this past weekend? Did they get anything? Were they Yakama? When I was out in the desert last couple years I seen people out shooting with rifles for various things such as target and yotes and they were an assortment of ethnicity.

I'm not doubting or calling you out Ben, just inquiring.
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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #140 on: November 29, 2016, 09:23:28 PM »
Some of you are classy.

What's goes around comes around. :dunno:
Nice!  You could let him RIP.

Apparently you have no clue what the P stands for.

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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #141 on: November 29, 2016, 09:25:47 PM »
Some of you are classy.

What's goes around comes around. :dunno:
Nice!  You could let him RIP.

Apparently you have no clue what the P stands for.
Yes,  you are correct, please enlighten me.

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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #142 on: November 29, 2016, 09:27:45 PM »
I need to go hunting!  :chuckle:

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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #143 on: November 29, 2016, 09:29:05 PM »
"P" as in pieces?
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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #144 on: November 29, 2016, 09:32:15 PM »
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Apply pressure to the state legislature to make our laws as good as the Native's in terms of seasons, bag limits etc.. Does no good to whine about it online.

You've got to be kidding. So you think we should pressure the state to give us a year around season with absolutely no limit to how many deer or elk each person can kill per year?

And as to the whining about it online, it actually does do some good, because it's due to all the "whining" over the last several years on this site that I've been made aware of how bad the problem really is.

Many of the Yakama tribal members kill trophy size deer and elk for no reason other than to sell the heads. And again, they can kill as many as they want, and there is no season. If we all could do that, there would be no deer or elk left in the state.

I don't disagree with some indian rights, but this isn't 1875. If the game isn't managed in the best interests of everyone, there won't be any to manage at some point. The term "subsistence" for 95% of the indians, especially those that live in the lower 48, do NOT subsistence hunt and are just as modernized as anyone else relying on microwave ovens instead of grinding maze with a stone. It is long past time to regulate every hunter regardless of race, color, creed, religion or any other term of that nature to a single set of rules and regulations applicable to everyone that hunts, with state specific rules and regs. Regardless of the subsistence issue, the year is currently 2016, what happened 100+ years ago was not perpetrated by anyone alive today, nor are there any victims alive today. Ancestry is not victimhood. Some may say this is unfair to the indians in light of what they suffered through. I did NOT say they didn't suffer, just that no one alive today was on either side of the suffering. How long is the egregious inequity and inequality going to last in regards to hunting rights? Until 2080? 2125? How about the year 2200?  Let's get real, its time for a change, way past time.

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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #145 on: November 29, 2016, 09:35:41 PM »
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If that picture of the truck load of elk doesn't stir anger and emotion about a blatant violation of human decency along with the willful and wanton waste of precious game resources and the rights of hunters everywhere, YOU are part of the problem.

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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #146 on: November 29, 2016, 09:44:43 PM »
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If that picture of the truck load of elk doesn't stir anger and emotion about a blatant violation of human decency along with the willful and wanton waste of precious game resources and the rights of hunters everywhere, YOU are part of the problem.

He was stopped and fined, just for the record. He wasn't doing it legally by tribes or white mans laws.
My interpretation of the rules are open to interpretation.
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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #147 on: November 29, 2016, 10:34:37 PM »
Let's put this in another perspective.

China invades the U.S., reduces our army to dust. All the survivors sign treaties to live on abysmal lands so that they won't get reduced to dust. You are forced to learn Mandarin, no longer speak English and abide by Buddhist or Taoist religions. You can't wear your traditional clothing either. You are given a few bones though, you can hunt and fish.

Fast forward 150 years, you are now 0.9% of the population. The New China Republic as been trying to take away the bones it has given again and again but there has been enough resistance from the original colonists and sympathizers in the New Republic that you barely have a grasp of what was once the livelihood of your ancestors. One of the few things that you have left to your identity is one of the bones that was given to your people generations ago. And the some of the people in the New Republic still wants to take it away because of a few bad apples.

It's hard for a non tribal member to know what its like to have the stigma like that or have our rights threatened like that. Most people don't know what it is like on the other end.

You want to see someone who didn't want to loose their rights to the white man? Watch footage of Billy Frank Jr. fight tooth and nail, get beat down only to stand back up and fight another day.

The same argument can be said about the second amendment, the guns of today weren't even in the wildest dreams of our founding fathers "so we should change that too." WTF

There are so many factors that could cause the decline of animals in a particular GMU. But if the rumor gets out that someone saw this or that or talked to someone who knew that this had happened and this is who to blame. GET THE POSSE TOGETHER!
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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #148 on: November 29, 2016, 11:01:46 PM »
Agreed... However the ongoing problem persists despite ancient history; we can't go back and request a "do over." Someone or some agency needs to draw a line in the sand and start the process of changing to a better state of management for our wildlife resources. Simply needs to happen, open the avenues of communication... DO SOMETHING or the same result will perpetuate the demise of the resource.

Appreciate the info on the picture.

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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #149 on: November 29, 2016, 11:12:48 PM »
What did injuns do when they took over another tribe? :dunno:

 


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