Side By Side ATV's

[Buck Rub Jr]

My grandpa has sent me on a mission to find a side by side for him. he said he is just too "gimped up" to ride a snowmobile up to the cabin this winter for late elk and cabin maintanence. He just had shoulder surgery last week and wants to get up there next weekend to try for an elk(I'm his designated companion)I can't seem to find anything with tracks and I know next to nothing about ATV's. He wants to get a snow tracked side by side and spend around $10,000. Anybody have any tips where to look and what to look for?

[Dbow]

http://camoplastutvtracks.com/
May have to buy one and do an add on.

[JBar]

I think Russ McDonald runs a tracked side x side for work maybe send him a PM or maybe he'll see this thread.

[SteelheadTed]

$10,000 will be tough to get a side by side with tracks.  For a new rig with tracks you are looking at more like $15,000.  For $10,000 you'll have to get a used rig. 

Stick with name brands, Yamaha, Honda, Polaris, etc.  The cheaper brands just aren't worth it.  For a rig like this, getting stuck far from home or your truck just isn't fun and if you do get stuck you'll wish you'd spent the couple extra thousand.  If money is less of a concern than convenience, find a good dealer and work with them.  I've heard good things about Sumner Tractor but haven't dealt with them myself. 

Good luck.

[benhuntin]

Will have to be older with high mileage. Tracks alone are 3-4000. I have an 800 ranger crew that I am also looking for tracks. Good luck on your search.


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[highside74]

Mid 2000s yamaha 660 rhino with a set of tracks should be in that 10k range

[Buck Rub Jr]

Thanks guys, forgot to mention he was looking for a used one. I appreciate the help.

[Boss .300 winmag]

I think Russ McDonald runs a tracked side x side for work maybe send him a PM or maybe he'll see this thread.

He does run one for the forest circus so he can get to radio towers in the winter.

I'll send him a pm.

@Russ McDonald

[Russ McDonald]

Lol forest circus.  I resemble that remark.  PM inbound

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[Russ McDonald]

The tracks aren't cheap. If your on hard pack it is great.  Pushing powder is a different story.  Polaris Ranger 800 couldn't push much more then 3 foot of snow.  Those things have some weight to them and it will just plow light a dump truck. 

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[Buck Rub Jr]

Hmm, it gets traveled pretty good by snow machines during the winter months so the way up towards the cabin is usually pretty well compacted. I will let him know, thanks guys. Any recommendations where to buy tracks from?

[Boss .300 winmag]

Some light reading.


http://dirtwheelsmag.com/home-page/home-features/buyers-guide-atv-tracks-for-the-snow

[Shannon]

I have a 2008 Polaris Ranger with Tracks and cab. I was thinking about selling mine since my cabin burned down last year. I have it scheduled to go into the shop this week for some routine maentenance. I'll ask them what they think its worth. I only used the tracks twice to get into my cabin in the winter. Might work out perfect.Its got a lot of extras-dump bed, heater, fan, tool boxes, chain saw holder, gas can holder, sprayer, etc.
I'll PM you when I get it back from the shop.

[Boss .300 winmag]

Shannon can you run them on bare logging roads and not damage the tracks, like before you get to snow?

[Shannon]

Yeah you can run them anywhere. Its just wear and tear on them that isn't necessary unless your going from snow patch to snow patch. Its less wear and tear on standard tires. I have a two dog box for the bed of mine also. Not sure I want to sell it just yet but I'm kicking it around. Its a lot of fun to use.

[Buck Rub Jr]

Wow that would be great. I really appreciate all the replies everyone.

[buddy01]

I have a Polaris 570 ranger push button AWD , and power stering that's all you need. Look at them on utube

[bearpaw]

I've got a Yamaha Viking VI outfitted with the camoplast tracks, I have not seen any snow on roads that it cannot navigate, up to 4 feet deep in powder or wet snow, it don't matter. Steep inclines in deep powder snow offroad can be a challenge but it doesn't sound like your grandpa will be doing that. We did a ton of research before purchasing the Viking or the Camoplast tracks, a cheaper option would be to find an older used Yamaha Rhino with low mileage, they are pretty reliable. Be sure to get a 700 EFI in a 2007 or newer Rhino so that you get the electronic fuel injection, they always start easy at any elevation. We also have a 2008 700 Rhino that we purchased due to info I learned from others and I don't regret that purchase either, it is a good machine. I have not put tracks on it but it's probably got enough power to run them.

Power Needed:
At first I was going to put tracks on an ATV, everyone told us to get an ATV with at least 500cc's. We ended up putting tracks on my Viking 700 UTV, I would suggest at least 600 or 700 cc's since a UTV is bigger and heavier with more passengers. I've considered getting one of the new Honda Pioneer 1000 which would have even more power to pull those tracks, but your grandpa wouldn't need that just to get to his cabin.

What Make:
We narrowed it down to Yamaha or Honda due to reliability reports. CanAm would also be great, they are very reliable but they are the most expensive brand. I have a friend who owns 3 Polaris Rangers, they use them daily and one is always in the shop, he regrets buying Polaris. We have 3 Yamaha, 2 Viking and 1 Rhino. Admittedly the Rhino needs a new stator right now and I also had to put a new speed sensor on the governor, but it is 8 years old, so that isn't too bad. Neither of the Vikings has had any breakdown. I have another friend with an old Rhino that has over 20,000 miles and still running. I can tell you that the newer Vikings are much roomier than the older Rhinos. All the newer machines are roomier but some of the sportier models don't have much cargo capacity. I don't know enough about Kawasaki to say much one way or another about reliability.

Cost:
I think an older 700 Rhino with low miles in good shape will run about $6000 to $8000. If you add $3000 or $4000 to that you can probably get a new 700 Yamaha Viking or 700 Honda Pioneer. The Camoplast tracks for a side by side can be found occasionally used for $3000 to $4000. New they will be a little over $5000 with sales tax. Total cost is going to be at least $10,000 minimum up to $25,000 depending on what you buy. I've got about $20,000 into my new Viking VI with new tracks.

Good Luck with whatever you and your grandpa decide on!

[Boss .300 winmag]

Bear paw comes thru with a working mans good gouge. 

[bearpaw]

Bear paw comes thru with a working mans good gouge. 

Was just passing on what we learned. I used to own Polaris snowmobiles and ATV's, they were in the shop way too often so we got rid of them and won't be buying any more Polaris. We have all Yamaha, Honda, and Skidoo now, repairs have dropped tremendously. We did not have good experience with Arctic Cat either, won't buy another. Another friend bough a new Arctic Cat 1000 UTV at the same time we bought the two Vikings, after two new motors he traded off his AC for another new arctic cat (with some factory assistance), he is having problems with the new AC too. I wished I could support Polaris or AC, they are American made!

[Wacenturion]

Bearpaw, I second the Yamaha choice.   I too have a 2016 Yamaha Viking VI Ranch.  Love it.  Wanted a crew type as it handles family and friends better than a two or three seater on my property.  Researched and then spent time driving a fairly new Polaris crew and comparing to the Yamaha Viking VI.  Obviously I went for not only the Yamaha reliability but also the noticable smoothness and comfort in the field.

Buckrub.... A good used newer Rhino as Bearpaw suggested would be an excellent choice.

[bearpaw]

Bearpaw, I second the Yamaha choice.   I too have a 2016 Yamaha Viking VI Ranch.  Love it.  Wanted a crew type as it handles family and friends better than a two or three seater on my property.  Researched and then spent time driving a fairly new Polaris crew and comparing to the Yamaha Viking VI.  Obviously I went for not only the Yamaha reliability but also the noticable smoothness and comfort in the field.

Buckrub.... A good used newer Rhino as Bearpaw suggested would be an excellent choice.

Same exact machine that we bought, so far both of them are incredibly reliable. Last year I had a whole 6x6 bull elk (cut in half) in the box with 4 people riding, it had no trouble handling it at 9000 foot elevations. I've also had 6 riders on numerous occasions while hunting or recreating. I do wished it had a little more motor when heavily loaded, a 1000 would be awesome! My son has already worn out the original tires on his, he uses it all the time.

[Buck Rub Jr]

You guys are great I really appreciate all of this info. It helps a ton.

[bearpaw]

You guys are great I really appreciate all of this info. It helps a ton.

A guy on here named campmeat can tell you about the CanAms (skidoo UTV's), they are very reliable and powerful, but more spendy.

[Happy Gilmore]

I just got a Honda 1000 5s. Haven't gotten to use it a whole lot to comment much but, compared to Rangers I've used it rides a lot nicer and is very powerful. Price range isn't close though...

My buddy has a nearly fully restored snow machine with an inline 6, 4 speed and cat driver. It could seat 7. It has been restored professionally. He is interested in selling it. It's around that price range.

Located in South Cle Elum. Can drive by and look at it. Can't remember his street but, about four blocks deep into south Cle elum and take a right. It's parked in front of his house. Bright red. Can't miss it.

[Happy Gilmore]

I just got a Honda 1000 5s. Haven't gotten to use it a whole lot to comment much but, compared to Rangers I've used it rides a lot nicer and is very powerful. Price range isn't close though...

My buddy has a nearly fully restored snow machine with an inline 6, 4 speed and cat driver. It could seat 7. It has been restored professionally. He is interested in selling it. It's around that price range.

Located in South Cle Elum. Can drive by and look at it.

Also,from a reliability standpoint, its a no brainer. It's all Ford econoline parts and super easy to work on yourself. It's a riot to drive.

[Shannon]

I think its like Ford verses Chevy verses Dodge. I swear by Ford just like I swear by Polaris. I have had a bunch of Polaris' and never had a problem. All my friends have Polaris and we all swear by them. I had one Yamaha and had lots of problems. Maybe I got a lemon but I have never had a lemon that was a Polaris.

[Happy Gilmore]

My friends who are professional dog trainers have two Polaris and one mule. All have over 2,000 hours and have had no issues. I've used theirs a lot. The mule holds its name sake as it rides like a mule kicks. The rangers are nicer. I took my new Honda up and we rode them around. It's not much of a comparison. I'm very happy with the 1000. Will check back in next year after it gets some hours everyday in the desert. I'm heading south for a few months to train dogs and will be on it all day every day.

[Buck Rub Jr]

How do they handle in lighter snow without tracks? I'm not sure if there will be a lot of snow up there this coming weekend, possibly get up there this weekend without tracks then have tracks put on for later in the year?

[Boss .300 winmag]

How do they handle in lighter snow without tracks? I'm not sure if there will be a lot of snow up there this coming weekend, possibly get up there this weekend without tracks then have tracks put on for later in the year?

What did you get?

[Buck Rub Jr]

How do they handle in lighter snow without tracks? I'm not sure if there will be a lot of snow up there this coming weekend, possibly get up there this weekend without tracks then have tracks put on for later in the year?

What did you get?

Nothing yet, I've just been looking at a few and wondering if that would be a good idea for him to do since it probably isn't likely that we will have one set up with tracks and ready to go by Friday.

[coop2424]

Depending on what you get and tire conditions will determine how much snow you can go in.. I have a Polaris rzr that I can push 2-3" of snow and still get around..  It has bigger tires and a lift which I think I can run in about 10-12" of snow but may be more.  Have had it for 6 years and have had not one problem..

[Buck Rub Jr]

Depending on what you get and tire conditions will determine how much snow you can go in.. I have a Polaris rzr that I can push 2-3" of snow and still get around..  It has bigger tires and a lift which I think I can run in about 10-12" of snow but may be mlre.  Have had it for 6 years and have had not one problem..

Perfect, thank you.