Wireless Trail cameras

[davk]

I guess I have a poor imagination, can someone explain to me how they can be abused?  The only real advantage is I don't have to drive 100 miles or further to check them and I don't have to leave my scent in the area to check them.  Other than that can someone explain the thinking behind unfair advantage.  Thanks!

  By putting 4 or 5 out in an area and kicking back at camp and waiting for your prey to pass by one of them.

Exactly that.  Along with slightly more involved versions of the same concept.  Basically they can be used to alert a "hunter" of game in the area.   The use you explain is exactly where I would benefit greatly from them and see them as a huge plus.  I really dont understand the reason why B&C would not accept animals taken with the use in scouting.  Not that I would personally give a ... if an animal I killed was in a record book.  Unless they have a very broad definition of scouting which would cover any sort of non actively hunting activities during the hunting season or something.  Like hunting unit A and having a camera in unit B.  Getting a picture from the camera in unit B is considered scouting ... and then you drive to unit B to hunt that animal.

[davk]

Boone and Crockett Club and the Pope and Young Club. According to the presidents of both B&C (Tony Schoonen) and P&Y (Jim Willems), neither have any issue with the use of traditional trail cameras that require hunters to visit the camera site to retrieve data cards or film (as far as fair chase goes). But, both oppose the use of cameras that transmit images directly to a location where they may be viewed by a hunter. Animals taken with the use of a direct transmit camera are not eligible for inclusion in their record books. Schoonen relayed this statement:

“Trophies taken with the use of trail cameras, including scouting, are eligible for entry in B&C, but only if the hunter has to manually remove film and/or a card from the trail camera itself to retrieve the images. Trophies taken with the use of trail cameras, including scouting, that transmit images to a computer/base station for viewing are not eligible for entry in B&C.”

There is clearly a way for these to be abused during hunting season, but I don't get the opposition to them otherwise.  I wish people would have more of an open mind.  I have to dedicate entire days, if not entire weekends, and put in 20+ miles to check my cameras.  Should I claim not fair chase for people who hunt private land and can check all their cameras before their morning cup of coffee gets cold?

This is a ridiculous stance by B&C.

What about guys who have property in other states?  Or countries?
I get that it can be abused during season, but the easy way around it is to limit their use for entry to outside of season, not just generally.

Yeah I feel the exact same way.  I don't get the idea behind it.  I guess if you don't have an abundance of excess time, your not a true hunter.

[Machias]

I guess I have a poor imagination, can someone explain to me how they can be abused?  The only real advantage is I don't have to drive 100 miles or further to check them and I don't have to leave my scent in the area to check them.  Other than that can someone explain the thinking behind unfair advantage.  Thanks!

  By putting 4 or 5 out in an area and kicking back at camp and waiting for your prey to pass by one of them.

   ok....

[Mark Brenckle]

I guess I have a poor imagination, can someone explain to me how they can be abused?  The only real advantage is I don't have to drive 100 miles or further to check them and I don't have to leave my scent in the area to check them.  Other than that can someone explain the thinking behind unfair advantage.  Thanks!

  By putting 4 or 5 out in an area and kicking back at camp and waiting for your prey to pass by one of them.

   ok....

Honestly I just made that up, I've never looked into it.   

[Machias]

 

[Becky]

I know there's a law about any type of flying/drone use/scouting or even being up in the air on the same day you hunt. I don't remember the wording. I think in some states that prohibit live-feed cameras, it's along those lines, being notified immediately without you physically being there to see the animal yourself.

I'm not against using them, just posting the information we've read about them in the past is all.