Change the 24 caliber min in washington(added poll please vote)

[Bob33]

If anything thinks Washington's regulations are too onerous and difficult to understand, just be glad you don't have to decipher Montana's Byzantine regulations:

During the General Season: There is no rifle or handgun caliber limitation for the taking of big game animals.

[JLS]

Anyone that thinks they can legislate away stupidity and lack of common sense likely suffers from the same.

[rasbo]

Lots of currently legal deer cartridges can be shot from an AR15 platform rifle. I disagree with the need for any change to the current law. It's just asking for more wounded and not recovered animals.

This.  exactly this.

roger that,x2

[Gringo31]

Anyone that thinks they can legislate away stupidity and lack of common sense likely suffers from the same.

This has merit!

But....we have speed limits, rules against driving drunk, bag limits (vs. just don't take too much if there isn't that much game around that year) etc....

 

[Lefthook]

6x45 is made from .223 brass. Can we expect Fish and Game officers to carry a micrometer for enforcement?

I would hope whatever gun you are using has the caliber engraved on the barrel?

As for first gun was a .50 cal kids muzzy with a brass butt plate. 100 grains of powder with a 385 grain buffalo bullet. Killed my first doe with it at nine years old.
Regards, Branden

 

My first hunting seasons consisted of a good old full size Thompson Center .54 cal muzzloader kit rifle. Brass butt plate and after lugging that beast around for about 3/4's of my first hunting season I finally harvested a doe.

I hunted a total of three seasons with that rifle. As kids will do, after three seasons of muzzloader hunting, I became very interested in modern rifles. My fourth season of deer hunting I couldn't resist a modern rifle, I found myself lugging around a Remington 700 BDL in 7mm Remington Magnum. I dropped a little forked horn with my 7 mag. I hit him high in the left front shoulder, instant face plant.

[jay.sharkbait]

6x45 is made from .223 brass. Can we expect Fish and Game officers to carry a micrometer for enforcement?

I would hope whatever gun you are using has the caliber engraved on the barrel?

Most of the wildcats I own do not.

[rasbo]

Is it me or are we living in a world where we just have to make things easier..Every year it just seems so,bows that shoot 100 yrds,muzzys 200yrds,rifles 1200 yrd shots.Now folks want to shoot pellets at the game..As  a kid I was small, I remember not being able to go on rides until I was "THIS" tall..There was a good reason for that..There is a good reason for the caliber law..

[Squidward]

I killed my 1st couple bucks with a 22-250, great little buck gun. That was here in WA, back when it was still legal to still use them.

[Lefthook]

Is it me or are we living in a world where we just have to make things easier..Every year it just seems so,bows that shoot 100 yrds,muzzys 200yrds,rifles 1200 yrd shots.Now folks want to shoot pellets at the game..As  a kid I was small, I remember not being able to go on rides until I was "THIS" tall..There was a good reason for that..There is a good reason for the caliber law..

 

Yes!

[Cougartail]

During the General Season: There is no rifle or handgun caliber limitation for the taking of big game animals.

That can only work in a state filled with ignorant hillbillies. With all the intellectual giants living in Washington they need to plan for all that might go wrong if you give freedom to the commoners of the State. Pretty funny to watch when an "intellectual" is considered a "Commoner" by another "Intellectual".

[JLS]

Anyone that thinks they can legislate away stupidity and lack of common sense likely suffers from the same.

This has merit!

But....we have speed limits, rules against driving drunk, bag limits (vs. just don't take too much if there isn't that much game around that year) etc....

 

Certainly.  Speeding and DUI laws are for safety reasons that directly affect all of us.  Bag limits are for conservation purposes.  Minimum caliber laws are for what?  Public safety?  Nope.  Conservation?  Nope.  Social issues?

I can kill deer and elk all day long with a .22 centerfire, yet I've watched people cripple elk with .30 caliber supermagnums over and over.  It's a stupid and archaic law that makes no sense and makes it harder than it has to be.  You can legally hunt with a 9mm pistol, but you can't with a 22-250.  Explain that.

[JimmyHoffa]

What's WDFW's reasoning behind the restriction?

As for speed limits, I'd guess that most (95%+) would drive a reasonable speed.  Montana used to not have speed limits, the safest time on the roads in Montana.

[Bob33]

You can legally hunt with a 9mm pistol, but you can't with a 22-250.  Explain that.

My understanding is that hunters wanted the ability to dispatch a wounded animal with a handgun. Shooting a crippled deer in the head with a 9mm at two feet would certainly be sufficient to kill it.

[Buckewe]

You can legally hunt with a 9mm pistol, but you can't with a 22-250.  Explain that.

My understanding is that hunters wanted the ability to dispatch a wounded animal with a handgun. Shooting a crippled deer in the head with a 9mm at two feet would certainly be sufficient to kill it.

I beg to differ on that. This year I saw 2 deer that needed to be finished with a handgun, both standing over the deer shot to the back of the head twice with a 40 cal and they both didn't die.  A knife in that situation is a better option.

[jay.sharkbait]

You can legally hunt with a 9mm pistol, but you can't with a 22-250.  Explain that.

My understanding is that hunters wanted the ability to dispatch a wounded animal with a handgun. Shooting a crippled deer in the head with a 9mm at two feet would certainly be sufficient to kill it.

I beg to differ on that. This year I saw 2 deer that needed to be finished with a handgun, both standing over the deer shot to the back of the head twice with a 40 cal and they both didn't die.  A knife in that situation is a better option.

Well you were using 10mm short.