Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?

[PlateauNDN]

Bobcat, I'll take away the pressure and anxiety of possibly shooting a non-legal bull and take him for you so please PM the location of said questionable bull.

[jay.sharkbait]

You're grasping at straws lefthook. 100% legal bull. Pass if you want, no way I would though

I would say letting an animal live is about as far away from grasping at straws as there is.

With your logic, every animal I have passed on was a straw game.

My decision to kill something I am comfortable with has to do with ethics and my personal approach to hunting. I'll let it walk, someone else can kill it.

So now it's ethics. That's good because your first post on the subject was factually incorrect.

If it's legal, kill it.

I unfortunately can not make a measurement in the field with in fractions of an inch so I believe it is not a legal kill, using the eyes and judgement which I have been given. I have read posts all over this forum (not this thread) calling 3x3 elk "spikes" because they, for some reason, don't believe eye guards count as points.

My ethical statement is because that bull is nowhere near the spirit of spike only. There is no point in me killing a bull that no way resembles a spike except for an eye guard being possibly 4 inches or so from the base of his right beam and the only way to have a definite answer is to kill it and measure it. I wonder how many "hunters" on here would shoot it, measure the distance from the base and find out it is not legal then walk away from it. Or kill it, finding out later it is not a legal kill and then try to sneak it out of the woods. The two previous statements I find unethical.

Because I wouldn't harvest the animal does not mean that others can't.

Fire at will.

Bob must not think it's legal or there would be a picture of it dead and tagged posted here. If that bull has been harvested and not posted here there could be an issue with it once a measurement was made. We'll see if that bull, dead, get's posted.

So you are saying if Bobcat doesn't post pictures then he's a possible poacher?

You're kidding right?

[buglebuster]

For comparison. This as my avatar bull, a nice 5pt. Even the eyguard on a mature bull is rarely 4in from the base.

[buglebuster]

Even on a nice 6pt shed.....

[Bob33]

Even on a nice 6pt shed.....

Thankfully, that's not the bull that Bobcat is asking about.

[buglebuster]

Even on a nice 6pt shed.....

Thankfully, that's not the bull that Bobcat is asking about.

Why? Its proving the 1st eyeguard even on a mature bull is not 4in from the base

[Lefthook]

You're grasping at straws lefthook. 100% legal bull. Pass if you want, no way I would though

I would say letting an animal live is about as far away from grasping at straws as there is.

With your logic, every animal I have passed on was a straw game.

My decision to kill something I am comfortable with has to do with ethics and my personal approach to hunting. I'll let it walk, someone else can kill it.

So now it's ethics. That's good because your first post on the subject was factually incorrect.

If it's legal, kill it.

I unfortunately can not make a measurement in the field with in fractions of an inch so I believe it is not a legal kill, using the eyes and judgement which I have been given. I have read posts all over this forum (not this thread) calling 3x3 elk "spikes" because they, for some reason, don't believe eye guards count as points.

My ethical statement is because that bull is nowhere near the spirit of spike only. There is no point in me killing a bull that no way resembles a spike except for an eye guard being possibly 4 inches or so from the base of his right beam and the only way to have a definite answer is to kill it and measure it. I wonder how many "hunters" on here would shoot it, measure the distance from the base and find out it is not legal then walk away from it. Or kill it, finding out later it is not a legal kill and then try to sneak it out of the woods. The two previous statements I find unethical.

Because I wouldn't harvest the animal does not mean that others can't.

Fire at will.

Bob must not think it's legal or there would be a picture of it dead and tagged posted here. If that bull has been harvested and not posted here there could be an issue with it once a measurement was made. We'll see if that bull, dead, get's posted.

So you are saying if Bobcat doesn't post pictures then he's a possible poacher?

You're kidding right?

Of course I'm kidding. I don't know if he even saw this bull on the hoof or posted a pic to spark a convo. Just a lame little joke.

[Magnum_Willys]

Even on a nice 6pt shed.....

Thankfully, that's not the bull that Bobcat is asking about.

I think both browtines fit into legal zone on those.....

[bobcat]

I'm not hunting this bull but a friend is. He sent me the picture last night. It's in one of the Region 3 units, which is a spike only unit. Like I said he has recent pictures of the bull as well, so he knows it's still alive and still in the area that he's hunting. I think this may be his last day to hunt elk for the year so I'm hoping he has some luck finding it today. I haven't heard from him yet but I'm sure I will if he gets a shot at it.

[dscubame]

You're grasping at straws lefthook. 100% legal bull. Pass if you want, no way I would though

I would say letting an animal live is about as far away from grasping at straws as there is.

With your logic, every animal I have passed on was a straw game.

My decision to kill something I am comfortable with has to do with ethics and my personal approach to hunting. I'll let it walk, someone else can kill it.

So now it's ethics. That's good because your first post on the subject was factually incorrect.

If it's legal, kill it.

I unfortunately can not make a measurement in the field with in fractions of an inch so I believe it is not a legal kill, using the eyes and judgement which I have been given. I have read posts all over this forum (not this thread) calling 3x3 elk "spikes" because they, for some reason, don't believe eye guards count as points.

My ethical statement is because that bull is nowhere near the spirit of spike only. There is no point in me killing a bull that no way resembles a spike except for an eye guard being possibly 4 inches or so from the base of his right beam and the only way to have a definite answer is to kill it and measure it. I wonder how many "hunters" on here would shoot it, measure the distance from the base and find out it is not legal then walk away from it. Or kill it, finding out later it is not a legal kill and then try to sneak it out of the woods. The two previous statements I find unethical.

Because I wouldn't harvest the animal does not mean that others can't.

Fire at will.

Bob must not think it's legal or there would be a picture of it dead and tagged posted here. If that bull has been harvested and not posted here there could be an issue with it once a measurement was made. We'll see if that bull, dead, get's posted.

So you are saying if Bobcat doesn't post pictures then he's a possible poacher?

You're kidding right?

 

[dscubame]

Buglebuster nailed it.  I don't ever recall seeing a brow tine not under 4.  Anyone have a pic of one over 4?

[Bob33]

I'll start a GoFundMe account for Bobcat's defense

[jay.sharkbait]

I'll start a GoFundMe account for Bobcat's defense

[bobcat]

I'll start a GoFundMe account for Bobcat's defense

Thanks Bob33. If you don't see me online for a while you know why.   

[Bob33]

I'll start a GoFundMe account for Bobcat's defense

Thanks Bob33. If you don't see me online for a while you know why.   

I hear there's a good defense lawyer in Kittitas.