Disqusted by so called Master Hunters

[Okanagan]

Just for clarity, (not that it will make any difference to anybody):  thinking that a particular government program is not a good idea does not equate to animosity toward anyone.

 

[Odell]

I can see that. But the program and the people in the program get attacked with a level of animosity on here that makes little sense.


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[EyeTooth]

Sorry to hear about that canyelk48. That's doesn't sound like the makings for a pleasant day.

[mountainman]

Some of the animosity is from those who can't qualify because they can't seem to not violate.  I know putting this up is not going to sit well with some, but it is the truth. 

sure this is true for some, but in a lesser degree..

[JDHasty]

Some of the animosity is from those who can't qualify because they can't seem to not violate.  I know putting this up is not going to sit well with some, but it is the truth.

How about some facts instead of half baked opinions like most of your other posts?

Oh sorry, did that hit a little close to home? 

[jay.sharkbait]

Some of the animosity is from those who can't qualify because they can't seem to not violate.  I know putting this up is not going to sit well with some, but it is the truth.

How about some facts instead of half baked opinions like most of your other posts?

Oh sorry, did that hit a little close to home?

Oh, wow you got me there. I'll confess, I can't pass the marksmanship test.

[JDHasty]

Some of the animosity is from those who can't qualify because they can't seem to not violate.  I know putting this up is not going to sit well with some, but it is the truth.

How about some facts instead of half baked opinions like most of your other posts?

Oh sorry, did that hit a little close to home?

Oh, wow you got me there. I'll confess, I can't pass the marksmanship test.

Yea, I doubt there is going to be a certification standard for volley fire. 

[Bob33]

Some of the animosity is from those who can't qualify because they can't seem to not violate.  I know putting this up is not going to sit well with some, but it is the truth.

How about some facts instead of half baked opinions like most of your other posts?

Oh sorry, did that hit a little close to home?

Oh, wow you got me there. I'll confess, I can't pass the marksmanship test.

Yea, I doubt there is going to be a certification standard for volley fire.

Was mud slinging one of the methods you qualified with to be a Master Hunter?

[jay.sharkbait]

Some of the animosity is from those who can't qualify because they can't seem to not violate.  I know putting this up is not going to sit well with some, but it is the truth.

How about some facts instead of half baked opinions like most of your other posts?

Oh sorry, did that hit a little close to home?

Oh, wow you got me there. I'll confess, I can't pass the marksmanship test.

Yea, I doubt there is going to be a certification standard for volley fire.

I'm pretty good with the crew served stuff.

[Dan-o]

A couple thoughts:
1.  If these guys were really Master Hunters, and if they did anything illegal in the course of their hunt, they can be removed from the program (provisionally) BEFORE they are convicted.  This changed several years ago.   The WDFW administrators can remove them right away in the face of illegal activity (even alleged).   I hope you called a warden or police soon enough to get them (Master Hunters or not).
2.  I know that WDFW has no problem being very aggressive in removing MH's who break the rules.   No 2nd chances. 
3.  I've been in the program for about 13 years now...... and I love it.  Because I've met some AWESOME people, including farmers, land owner, other hunters.   
4.  I've removed derelict wire fence, fixed other fence, cleaned up after other slob hunters, hazed elk out of irrigated crops, cleaned boat ramp areas, and worked at a hatchery as part of my MH service.     And I'vemet some great landowners.
5.   Good night.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Bad apples are bad apples and they end up in every user group.  Well except for the group of perfect hunters that Bob is still looking for.    They are out there Bob, I am sure of it.

I've reviewed quite a few applications, but after pouring over social media and other hunting sites I usually find something to disqualify them: missing hunter orange in a success photo, killing an animal with the wrong bullet, associating with members of certain organizations deemed unfit, and even a few who were temporarily banned from Hunt WA for trying to bypass the censor filter.

You left out not wearing the correct amount of camo and face paint.

[JDHasty]

A couple thoughts:
1.  If these guys were really Master Hunters, and if they did anything illegal in the course of their hunt, they can be removed from the program (provisionally) BEFORE they are convicted.  This changed several years ago.   The WDFW administrators can remove them right away in the face of illegal activity (even alleged).   I hope you called a warden or police soon enough to get them (Master Hunters or not).
2.  I know that WDFW has no problem being very aggressive in removing MH's who break the rules.   No 2nd chances. 
3.  I've been in the program for about 13 years now...... and I love it.  Because I've met some AWESOME people, including farmers, land owner, other hunters.   
4.  I've removed derelict wire fence, fixed other fence, cleaned up after other slob hunters, hazed elk out of irrigated crops, cleaned boat ramp areas, and worked at a hatchery as part of my MH service.     And I'vemet some great landowners.
5.   Good night.

The program is what you make of it.  There are people who are there strictly to take advantage of the program but they are not indicative of the participants on the whole. 

[tgomez]

"Master hunters" LMAO😂

[safehunter]

Today I looked out my window to see a herd of elk standing near my access road, so decided to drive down to the mailbox and take some photos.  Much to my dismay, as I round the curve and started snapping photos, I notice one cow limping away and then I see several rigs parked on a side road and people wearing hunter orange.  Drove down and see that they all had rifles and had shot the hell out of the herd.  At least 3 cows in sight down, and several others wounded and trying to keep up with the herd.  When I told them they were on private property (not mine, however), they claimed to have verbal permission (though highly unlikely since the land owner doesn't even live here) and that they were all Master Hunters.  I was so disgusted by the way these so called hunters just shot into the herd, including in the direction of nearby horses and livestock, that I gave them a piece of my mind and told them that in no way are they real hunters and just give hunters a bad name by actions such as theirs.  I took photographs and called Fish and Game and waited for them to show.  The officers investigated and another land owner also reported to them about coming upon 2 gut piles and a dead elk the other day behind his property.  Don't know what the outcome of these two separate incidents will be, but hopefully if nothing else, these idiots will think twice about shooting up a herd of elk in an area sounded by homes and livestock.  Nothing more than legalized poaching IMO and no better than the other incident with Natives at Oak Creek that is currently stirring up a lot of talk on this site.  To these "Master Hunters", way to go, you should be proud of your great hunt.

I understand your dismay, but sounds like you are the judge, jury and executioner and without a trial?
!) Could they have been told by someone( supposed land owner) that they could hunt there?
2) Did you witness them shoot in the direction of livestock or just your thought?
3) If the LEO investigated why didn't they take their MH permits on the spot?
4) Gut piles and a dead elk behind a land owners property, means what? Did these guys leave a dead elk and take two? Public land? Tribal hunters? Poachers? Other MH's?
 I'm not agreeing with what had transpired, but if it all went down as your reporting. Then LEO should have pulled their cards and issued citations!
  I have been in the program for quite awhile and very proud to be! I also know many who are and would have avoided the situation that you are describing!
   Giving Back is not what is described here! My  on your post
 

[Odell]

"Master hunters" LMAO😂

There it is... primarily a name problem.