Thanks all ! I've tried it all.I found that I just have to pay attention to the freezing and take care of it when it happens, and it will happen. I added another bobber stop below to keep the depth i want. As slow as it has gotten lately I have nothing better to do than clear ice anyway. Nice fish there Buckcanyon. I bleed them as well. I cut the gills and toss them back in the water just before i head home. Definitely less mess when processing.