wa attorney gen bob ferguson wants to ban assault weapons

[cooltimber]

 and high cap mag's..THis will be submitted in the 2017 legislative session..my sop computer will not upload info.

[Blacktail Sniper]

From the Attorney General's webpage:

http://www.atg.wa.gov/news/news-releases/ag-ferguson-proposes-ban-assault-weapons-high-capacity-magazines

Was talked about on here I believe back in Sept when it first popped-up. 

One more try to get something to stick...

Found it:

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,201029.msg2668217.html#msg2668217

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Just to refute a few things from this proposal.......

"Ferguson’s proposed legislation has two key elements:

A ban on semiautomatic weapons with military-style features that render them more easily concealable or more deadly;

A limit on magazine capacity — currently unlimited under Washington law — to a maximum of 10 rounds of ammunition."

First off, more concealable? Pistols are more concealable than  rifles of any kind and having a big clip makes them even less concealable. And what is considered a "military-styled feature"?  More deadly? Any weapon can be more deadly in the right situation. A baseball bat is more deadly than fists.

Then this quote......

“The recent tragedy in Mukilteo drives home the need to act with urgency to end the availability of weapons designed with only one purpose — to kill people,” Ferguson said. “I have a duty to protect the public, as well as uphold the constitution. My proposal will ban some of the deadliest weapons, while respecting the Second Amendment right to bear arms.”

According to the latest FBI statistics I could find, from 2014, rifles of any kind, (let alone high capacity semi autos), are less likely to be used in a shooting crime or kill you than pistols. WAY LESS. In 2014, 54 people in Washington were murdered with a handgun. Six were murdered with a rifle, and 4 by shotguns. 

Now for some perspective....... 25 people were murdered with knives. That is 4 times the number murdered with rifles of any kind. I've yet to see anyone proposing legislation to ban knives. 42 were murdered with "other weapons"  Who knows what that includes?  But lastly, 11 were murdered with "hands, fists, feet, etc. About twice what were killed by all rifles and they haven't proposed banning bodily appendages.

Here are the tables from various states.  https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-20/

This isn't about "protecting the public" this is about demonizing a particular weapon and passing something that makes you look tough on crime to the uninformed. AND It is about control.

[bigtex]

Word is that it's a cut and past from the last time and it won't make it out of committee like the last time.

But we'll have 50 threads on it, get all worked up, only to have it go nowhere...

[Lincoln4]

Word is that it's a cut and past from the last time and it won't make it out of committee like the last time.

But we'll have 50 threads on it, get all worked up, only to have it go nowhere...

Absolutely correct.  That said, I'm surprised the antis are trying to go through the legislature again.  They'll submit an initiative to the sheeple in 2018, and that will become law...   

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Jimmy, the FBI link I shared says murder (in yellow) by state.

[Lefthook]

With the legislative session about to fire back up we'll be hearing about this quite a bit in the next few months. Doesn't really mean anything other than the news likes the sound of it for a story.

[hunter399]

But we should never make 223 caliber into a sporting caliber,even though it may help your guns rights in the future.

[CAMPMEAT]

Paint your " Assault Weapons Tan ". Then they're not those scary Black guns....

God I hate Washingtonfornia State....

[MtnMuley]

Why aren't you out making new Arizona friends instead of worrying about us helpless Washingtonfornians??

[timberfaller]

But we should never make 223 caliber into a sporting caliber,even though it may help your guns rights in the future.

Why not???

It all about bullet placement anyways!!    I know a lot of deer and some bears that have been harvested with just a 222 Rem before the "powers that be" restricted them!!!  Even the WDG during the early 70's used that caliber!

by the way;

Guns Rights HAS NOTHING to do with Hunting or target shooting!   It has EVERYTHING to do with defending one's self against criminals and a over-reaching Government.   Caliber or how a firearm looks, has nothing to do with the 2A either.

Ferguson needs impeached if he tries it again!!

[Dan-o]

Word is that it's a cut and past from the last time and it won't make it out of committee like the last time.

But we'll have 50 threads on it, get all worked up, only to have it go nowhere...

I think you're right - this time.

But they only have to win once, and they are wining, slowly but surely.

[Blacktail Sniper]

Word is that it's a cut and past from the last time and it won't make it out of committee like the last time.

But we'll have 50 threads on it, get all worked up, only to have it go nowhere...

I think you're right - this time.

But they only have to win once, and they are wining, slowly but surely.

And that is right, they do not have to win the war in one fell swoop, they are in it for the long game, one piece at a time.

But eventually, they will tire of spinning their wheels, or some group will sponsor an initiative and get it put on the ballot, then King Co. will do what it does and put it in place....at that point, can only hope they do not use the California version(s)...

[Alchase]

Death by 1000 cuts, they take a little here a little there, pretty soon allwe are left with is "how did we let this happen"?

[pianoman9701]

Word is that it's a cut and past from the last time and it won't make it out of committee like the last time.

But we'll have 50 threads on it, get all worked up, only to have it go nowhere...

It's an important topic and people need to be aware and contact their legislators regardless of the likeliness that it'll die in committee.