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Re: wa attorney gen bob ferguson wants to ban assault weapons
« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2017, 09:06:41 PM »
Chicago Had 715 gun deaths last year and almost 800 total homicides. I am confident that very few if any were with an AR platform rifle. Mass shootings are a small percentage of the murders and if someone wants to kill another person they will find a way. The prison gangs find a way without guns.
Liberals are very compassionate with other people's money!

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Re: wa attorney gen bob ferguson wants to ban assault weapons
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2017, 07:27:19 PM »
I know this subject gets old , but there is second bill that there trying to push for that will require you to have a special licence to own (assault weapons) ,cost for it is 50 dollars ,must keep these weapons locked up when not in your possession,can only sell to a dealer or someone else with licence,and is a class c feleny if u don't do all this stuff.
https://www.firearmspolicy.org/alerts/alert-even-more-anti-gun-bills-coming-in-washington/

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20170113/alert-wa-state-proposes-draconian-gun-ban-bills

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Re: wa attorney gen bob ferguson wants to ban assault weapons
« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2017, 07:32:01 PM »
 First, it would impose a registration-licensing system for “assault weapons” and LCMs. Every person who possesses, transports, manufactures, purchases or sells an “assault weapon” or LCM must have an annual state-issued license, with an updated license required every time there is a change in possession of the gun or LCM. The licensing requirement has a delay period (until 2020) before it applies to persons who currently possess such items, but these persons would be prohibited from selling or transferring the gun or LCM to anyone other than a licensed dealer, a gunsmith, or to law enforcement for permanent relinquishment. Like the first bill, this bill mandates that relinquished guns and LCMs “must be destroyed.”

Licenses would not be available to persons under 21 years of age. Applicants would have to show proof of completing the specific kind of comprehensive training, and provide a statement that he or she will only use the gun or LCM for the specified “lawful” purposes and will always use “safe gun storage” when the "assault weapon" or LCM is not in the person’s “immediate possession.” The license applicant must provide a “full description” of both the lawful purpose for which the assault weapon or LCM is sought and the “safe gun storage” the applicant will use. The application also requires a minimum $50 fee, detailed personal information, detailed information about the weapon or LCM, fingerprinting, and a state database/NICS check. The bill also imposes a “great care” standard for licensees, in which the licensee must keep the assault weapon unloaded, within “secure gun storage,” when it is not in the licensee’s immediate possession.

Licensed dealers would be prohibited from selling or delivering an "assault weapon" or LCM to any person who does not have a state-issued license. Even with licensees, the bill would require the dealer to keep records of every transaction, to be submitted to local law enforcement. Further, because Washington State has a private background check requirement that applies to sales and “transfers” of firearms, the dealer performing a background check on a non-sale private “transfer” of an "assault weapon" is prohibited from “facilitating the transfer” if the parties lack the necessary licenses. Residents of other states would be prohibited from purchasing rifles and shotguns in Washington if the firearm comes within the definition of “assault weapon.”

And if all this wasn’t enough, the penalties for violations of these bills are staggering. Under the first bill, any violations are Class C felonies, as are violations of the licensing or the “great care” requirements in the second bill. Class C felonies are punishable by five years’ imprisonment, a fine of $10,000, or both the imprisonment and the fine. 

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Re: wa attorney gen bob ferguson wants to ban assault weapons
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2017, 07:50:37 PM »
Couldn't all this bs be avoided by purchasing a bolt action upper for the lower you own?
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Re: wa attorney gen bob ferguson wants to ban assault weapons
« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2017, 05:40:12 AM »
It wouldn't stop criminals getting them from out of state. Or even a law abiding citizen.
I couldn't care less about what anybody says..............

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Re: wa attorney gen bob ferguson wants to ban assault weapons
« Reply #50 on: January 20, 2017, 03:35:48 PM »
Well, I got his thoughtful reply.

"Thank you for sharing your opinion about the Attorney General’s request that the Legislature enact a bill to ban the sale of assault weapons and high capacity magazines in Washington or, alternatively, to raise the purchase age and apply enhanced background checks to assault weapons purchases. Before either bill becomes law, it must be passed by both chambers of the Legislature and signed by the Governor.

The text of the Attorney General’s proposed legislation is available on our website, and current version(s), as amended where applicable, will be available from the Legislature’s website.

We appreciate your feedback on this important issue.

Kindly,
Public Records
  &Constituent Services"

What a piece of garbage! :bash:
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Re: wa attorney gen bob ferguson wants to ban assault weapons
« Reply #51 on: January 20, 2017, 03:37:38 PM »
This for any gun that holds more than ten rounds ect. You will have to do this,handguns ect.
Couldn't all this bs be avoided by purchasing a bolt action upper for the lower you own?
No because of the pistol grip it's still falls under assault weapon.

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Re: wa attorney gen bob ferguson wants to ban assault weapons
« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2017, 03:39:55 PM »
Couldn't all this bs be avoided by purchasing a bolt action upper for the lower you own?

Not going to happen, even if it were legal with the pistol grip (which it isn't). We need to defeat this bill if it ever gets out of committee.  :tup:
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Re: wa attorney gen bob ferguson wants to ban assault weapons
« Reply #53 on: January 20, 2017, 03:43:34 PM »
You will have to buy a licence to shoot your tube feed 22 what a bunch of bs,and go to a gun safety class really.

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Re: wa attorney gen bob ferguson wants to ban assault weapons
« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2017, 03:45:19 PM »
Interestingly enough many are owners in other states have gone to a blocked Gas block and a side charging handle effectively turning the AR into a bolt assisted bolt action rifle. The pistol grip is the more expensive hurdle.
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Re: wa attorney gen bob ferguson wants to ban assault weapons
« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2017, 03:49:29 PM »
Have seen these pistol grip wrap things I bolt on your ar,there useing them in California .

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Re: wa attorney gen bob ferguson wants to ban assault weapons
« Reply #56 on: January 20, 2017, 03:57:28 PM »
This is the type of ar15 rifles legal in California now,
https://www.pewpewtactical.com/featureless-ar-15-rifle-grips-stocks-muzzle-devices/

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Re: wa attorney gen bob ferguson wants to ban assault weapons
« Reply #57 on: January 20, 2017, 04:51:26 PM »
The great thing about AR platform guns is that it's realitivly inexpensive to forget a work around and put the extra parts in a safe place for when sanity returns.
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Re: wa attorney gen bob ferguson wants to ban assault weapons
« Reply #58 on: January 20, 2017, 05:00:29 PM »
This may not get though this time but with all the Californians that have moved here and the liberal majority in this state, I do believe in my lifetime we will have very similar regulations as California has now.

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Re: wa attorney gen bob ferguson wants to ban assault weapons
« Reply #59 on: January 20, 2017, 09:05:26 PM »
This will not pass the legislature!!

 


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