collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?  (Read 6757 times)

Offline huntandjeep

  • Trade Count: (+13)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2009
  • Posts: 2900
  • Location: West Valley , Yakima
.223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« on: December 19, 2016, 05:43:51 PM »
Anyone done it ?
Selling my current .223 AR and building another but thinking of going .204 this time if it will work with my can . Otherwise will build another .223
Anyone that thinks a Glock is better than a 1911 paints his toenails.
Yakima Valley Mountaineers

Offline Special T

  • Truth the new Hate Speech.
  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+13)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2009
  • Posts: 25033
  • Location: Skagit Valley
  • Make it Rain!
    • Silver Arrow Bowmen
    • Silver Arrow Bowmen
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2016, 05:59:30 PM »
Bet it works pretty good.
In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself. 

Confucius

Offline huntandjeep

  • Trade Count: (+13)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2009
  • Posts: 2900
  • Location: West Valley , Yakima
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2016, 06:10:08 PM »
Bet it works pretty good.
Kinda what I'm hoping. Never been around a 204 so not sure how loud they are unsuppressed .
Anyone that thinks a Glock is better than a 1911 paints his toenails.
Yakima Valley Mountaineers

Offline hunting4sanity

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2011
  • Posts: 1070
  • Location: eastern WA
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2016, 06:26:31 PM »
Your existing .223 can will work with a .204  As to the noise issue, in bolt rifles I've thought the noise level was very similar un-suppressed. I love shooting suppressed rifles, that should be a good setup if you build your 204AR.
Disappointments are inevitable, misery is optional.

Offline huntandjeep

  • Trade Count: (+13)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2009
  • Posts: 2900
  • Location: West Valley , Yakima
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2016, 06:59:31 PM »
Your existing .223 can will work with a .204  As to the noise issue, in bolt rifles I've thought the noise level was very similar un-suppressed. I love shooting suppressed rifles, that should be a good setup if you build your 204AR.
Good to hear  :tup:. Still up in the air on a 204 build . Never even consider one just thought it would be different. If my 10 minutes of research is right the 223 has more choices of bullet weight but the 204 is faster . 204 has the flatness advantage past 400yrds ( but I have a 22/250 and 220 swift for that )
Anyone that thinks a Glock is better than a 1911 paints his toenails.
Yakima Valley Mountaineers

Offline b23

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2010
  • Posts: 3308
  • Location: Spokane Wa.
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2016, 10:16:40 PM »
From what I've read and been told, the 204's in AR length barrels are very loud so you'll likely want to run it with your can screwed on the end.  I know my 16in. AR's in just 223 are loud as h3II unsuppressed so if the 204 is louder than those, it must be VERY LOUD!!  :yike:

I thought about getting a 204 barrel for my AR but I really like the little CZ 527's and they flat shoot right out of the box and for just a little more than what a good quality barrel cost, I can have a CZ 527 Varmint in 204.  If you're not 100% set on doing a 204 in an AR, maybe take a look at the CZ 527 Varmint model, they're a sweet little bolt gun and they always seems to shoot extremely well.

Offline Blacklab

  • Site Sponsor
  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 8051
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2016, 09:59:20 AM »
Yep loud and quick, 1-12 17inch lilja barel  ;)
Hey! I'm not a complete idiot I have parts missing. Though sometimes I wonder.

If you want to make God laugh tell him your plans.

Offline LEN

  • Trade Count: (+6)
  • Scout
  • ****
  • Join Date: Oct 2007
  • Posts: 323
  • Location: Olympia
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2016, 10:29:07 AM »
If you are reloading, might look at Tac20. 223 brass almost free.

LEN

Offline b23

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2010
  • Posts: 3308
  • Location: Spokane Wa.
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2016, 11:36:30 AM »
If you are reloading, might look at Tac20. 223 brass almost free.

Or a 20 Practical, which is just a straight neck down of 223 brass to .20cal with no fireforming involved.  I really like the idea of a 20 Practical or 20 Tactical because you can use Lapua 223 brass which nearly lasts forever and if I wasn't so cheap I'd have one of my 223's rebarreled to 20 Practical but I really want another CZ 527 just need to figure out how I can slip it by "The Warden" without her noticing. :chuckle:

Offline jay.sharkbait

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jun 2013
  • Posts: 6507
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2016, 11:44:52 AM »
If you are reloading, might look at Tac20. 223 brass almost free.

Or a 20 Practical, which is just a straight neck down of 223 brass to .20cal with no fireforming involved.  I really like the idea of a 20 Practical or 20 Tactical because you can use Lapua 223 brass which nearly lasts forever and if I wasn't so cheap I'd have one of my 223's rebarreled to 20 Practical but I really want another CZ 527 just need to figure out how I can slip it by "The Warden" without her noticing. :chuckle:

CZ is slowly adding calibers to the 527 model. They just announced a 6.5 Grendel and I heard .300 Blackout is a possibility. Re-barreling the 527 is pretty easy too.

Offline b23

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2010
  • Posts: 3308
  • Location: Spokane Wa.
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2016, 12:37:29 PM »
Re-barreling the 527 is pretty easy too.

I'd imagine it's a pretty straight forward process, as long as you have a lathe that can cut metric threads. 

James Calhoon is kind of a CZ 527 specialist and he told me, how they come right from the factory is pretty darn good and typically doesn't have to do much to them at all.

Offline jay.sharkbait

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jun 2013
  • Posts: 6507
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2016, 12:55:32 PM »
Re-barreling the 527 is pretty easy too.

I'd imagine it's a pretty straight forward process, as long as you have a lathe that can cut metric threads. 

James Calhoon is kind of a CZ 527 specialist and he told me, how they come right from the factory is pretty darn good and typically doesn't have to do much to them at all.

Here is a wrench we designed and we used Black Hole to do the pre fit barrels. It took me less than an hour to do the re-barrel and a couple more to adjust the inletting.

We did a standard shank replacement and prototyped a Savage style nut.

Sorry for the hijack :)

Offline b23

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2010
  • Posts: 3308
  • Location: Spokane Wa.
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2016, 04:21:52 PM »
You had me right up until you said barrel nut.  :yike:

I appreciate their function and they definitely serve their purpose and have their place, it's just that place won't ever be on any of my guns. lol

Offline jay.sharkbait

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jun 2013
  • Posts: 6507
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2016, 04:33:22 PM »
You had me right up until you said barrel nut.  :yike:

I appreciate their function and they definitely serve their purpose and have their place, it's just that place won't ever be on any of my guns. lol

There was only one we did with the nut. It worked fine but I though it wasn't worth the weight penalty and having to face the reciever. All the others indexed like the factory barrel.

Offline huntandjeep

  • Trade Count: (+13)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2009
  • Posts: 2900
  • Location: West Valley , Yakima
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2016, 07:17:11 PM »
You guys hi-jack away  :tup:. Anyone ever part out an AR ?  Now I might just sell off the stuff I don't want ( everything except upper/lower receivers) and buy different. Not sure how to price the old stuff. What's your thoughts ?
Troy FF rail ,  DPMS barrel  , 6 position stock ( everythings been used for 10 shots )
 B23 I was just researching the 20 Practical  :chuckle:
« Last Edit: December 21, 2016, 07:25:03 PM by huntandjeep »
Anyone that thinks a Glock is better than a 1911 paints his toenails.
Yakima Valley Mountaineers

Offline JJB11B

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2010
  • Posts: 4496
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2016, 07:39:16 PM »
You guys hi-jack away  :tup:. Anyone ever part out an AR ?  Now I might just sell off the stuff I don't want ( everything except upper/lower receivers) and buy different. Not sure how to price the old stuff. What's your thoughts ?
Troy FF rail ,  DPMS barrel  , 6 position stock ( everythings been used for 10 shots )
 B23 I was just researching the 20 Practical  :chuckle:
I'd be interested in the barrel for the right price...I have no Idea what its worth though oops
« Last Edit: December 21, 2016, 07:51:04 PM by JJB11B »
"Pain heals, chicks dig scars, glory lasts forever."
Shane Falco

Offline huntandjeep

  • Trade Count: (+13)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2009
  • Posts: 2900
  • Location: West Valley , Yakima
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2016, 07:47:42 PM »
You guys hi-jack away  :tup:. Anyone ever part out an AR ?  Now I might just sell off the stuff I don't want ( everything except upper/lower receivers) and buy different. Not sure how to price the old stuff. What's your thoughts ?
Troy FF rail ,  DPMS barrel  , 6 position stock ( everythings been used for 10 shots )
 B23 I was just researching the 20 Practical  :chuckle:
I'd be interested in the barrel for the right price...I have know Idea what its worth though
Honestly I have no clue if I need to sell/ change the barrel or not. What I want to do is change out the 7" rail for a 13" rail , but the gas block on the rifle now has a picattinney rail on top of it that's flush with the handguard rail.   Am I right in thinking I just need to order a lo-profile gas block ?
 
Anyone that thinks a Glock is better than a 1911 paints his toenails.
Yakima Valley Mountaineers

Offline JJB11B

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2010
  • Posts: 4496
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2016, 07:50:13 PM »
You guys hi-jack away  :tup:. Anyone ever part out an AR ?  Now I might just sell off the stuff I don't want ( everything except upper/lower receivers) and buy different. Not sure how to price the old stuff. What's your thoughts ?
Troy FF rail ,  DPMS barrel  , 6 position stock ( everythings been used for 10 shots )
 B23 I was just researching the 20 Practical  :chuckle:
I'd be interested in the barrel for the right price...I have know Idea what its worth though
Honestly I have no clue if I need to sell/ change the barrel or not. What I want to do is change out the 7" rail for a 13" rail , but the gas block on the rifle now has a picattinney rail on top of it that's flush with the handguard rail.   Am I right in thinking I just need to order a lo-profile gas block ?
 
I think you need a whole new barrel and gas block.....mail me your old one and Ill dispose of it for you ;)
"Pain heals, chicks dig scars, glory lasts forever."
Shane Falco

Offline huntandjeep

  • Trade Count: (+13)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2009
  • Posts: 2900
  • Location: West Valley , Yakima
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2016, 07:56:08 PM »
You guys hi-jack away  :tup:. Anyone ever part out an AR ?  Now I might just sell off the stuff I don't want ( everything except upper/lower receivers) and buy different. Not sure how to price the old stuff. What's your thoughts ?
Troy FF rail ,  DPMS barrel  , 6 position stock ( everythings been used for 10 shots )
 B23 I was just researching the 20 Practical  :chuckle:
I'd be interested in the barrel for the right price...I have know Idea what its worth though
Honestly I have no clue if I need to sell/ change the barrel or not. What I want to do is change out the 7" rail for a 13" rail , but the gas block on the rifle now has a picattinney rail on top of it that's flush with the handguard rail.   Am I right in thinking I just need to order a lo-profile gas block ?
 
I think you need a whole new barrel and gas block.....mail me your old one and Ill dispose of it for you ;)
I will keep you posted .
Anyone that thinks a Glock is better than a 1911 paints his toenails.
Yakima Valley Mountaineers

Offline JJB11B

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2010
  • Posts: 4496
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2017, 04:01:10 PM »
You guys hi-jack away  :tup:. Anyone ever part out an AR ?  Now I might just sell off the stuff I don't want ( everything except upper/lower receivers) and buy different. Not sure how to price the old stuff. What's your thoughts ?
Troy FF rail ,  DPMS barrel  , 6 position stock ( everythings been used for 10 shots )
 B23 I was just researching the 20 Practical  :chuckle:
I'd be interested in the barrel for the right price...I have know Idea what its worth though

 Honestly I have no clue if I need to sell/ change the barrel or not. What I want to do is change out the 7" rail for a 13" rail , but the gas block on the rifle now has a picattinney rail on top of it that's flush with the handguard rail.   Am I right in thinking I just need to order a lo-profile gas block ?
 
I think you need a whole new barrel and gas block.....mail me your old one and Ill dispose of it for you ;)
I will keep you posted .
still got that barrel?  :chuckle:
"Pain heals, chicks dig scars, glory lasts forever."
Shane Falco

Offline Jburke

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2008
  • Posts: 1387
  • Location: Spokane
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2017, 08:17:19 PM »
You guys hi-jack away  :tup:. Anyone ever part out an AR ?  Now I might just sell off the stuff I don't want ( everything except upper/lower receivers) and buy different. Not sure how to price the old stuff. What's your thoughts ?
Troy FF rail ,  DPMS barrel  , 6 position stock ( everythings been used for 10 shots )
 B23 I was just researching the 20 Practical  :chuckle:
I'd be interested in the barrel for the right price...I have know Idea what its worth though
Honestly I have no clue if I need to sell/ change the barrel or not. What I want to do is change out the 7" rail for a 13" rail , but the gas block on the rifle now has a picattinney rail on top of it that's flush with the handguard rail.   Am I right in thinking I just need to order a lo-profile gas block ?
It looks like this thread may be a little older, but yes you are correct in thinking you would only need a low profile gas block to extend your rail.

Offline huntandjeep

  • Trade Count: (+13)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2009
  • Posts: 2900
  • Location: West Valley , Yakima
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2017, 09:02:48 PM »
You guys hi-jack away  :tup:. Anyone ever part out an AR ?  Now I might just sell off the stuff I don't want ( everything except upper/lower receivers) and buy different. Not sure how to price the old stuff. What's your thoughts ?
Troy FF rail ,  DPMS barrel  , 6 position stock ( everythings been used for 10 shots )
 B23 I was just researching the 20 Practical  :chuckle:
I'd be interested in the barrel for the right price...I have know Idea what its worth though

 Honestly I have no clue if I need to sell/ change the barrel or not. What I want to do is change out the 7" rail for a 13" rail , but the gas block on the rifle now has a picattinney rail on top of it that's flush with the handguard rail.   Am I right in thinking I just need to order a lo-profile gas block ?
 
I think you need a whole new barrel and gas block.....mail me your old one and Ill dispose of it for you ;)
I will keep you posted .
still got that barrel?  :chuckle:
Yes I still have . PM sent
Anyone that thinks a Glock is better than a 1911 paints his toenails.
Yakima Valley Mountaineers

Offline huntandjeep

  • Trade Count: (+13)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2009
  • Posts: 2900
  • Location: West Valley , Yakima
Re: .223 Suppressor for .204 ?
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2017, 09:06:21 PM »
You guys hi-jack away  :tup:. Anyone ever part out an AR ?  Now I might just sell off the stuff I don't want ( everything except upper/lower receivers) and buy different. Not sure how to price the old stuff. What's your thoughts ?
Troy FF rail ,  DPMS barrel  , 6 position stock ( everythings been used for 10 shots )
 B23 I was just researching the 20 Practical  :chuckle:
I'd be interested in the barrel for the right price...I have know Idea what its worth though
Honestly I have no clue if I need to sell/ change the barrel or not. What I want to do is change out the 7" rail for a 13" rail , but the gas block on the rifle now has a picattinney rail on top of it that's flush with the handguard rail.   Am I right in thinking I just need to order a lo-profile gas block ?
It looks like this thread may be a little older, but yes you are correct in thinking you would only need a low profile gas block to extend your rail.
That's what I did . Picked up an adjustable Seekins lo pro block and 12" Seekins rail.  Debating on going to a mid length gas system though.
Anyone that thinks a Glock is better than a 1911 paints his toenails.
Yakima Valley Mountaineers

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

Cowiche Quality Buck by tvandy45
[Today at 06:32:20 AM]


Son drawn - Silver Dollar Youth Any Elk - Help? by Rugergunsite308
[Today at 06:27:17 AM]


Bow mount trolling motors by CP
[Today at 06:03:13 AM]


2025 Draw Results by Bullkllr
[Today at 05:58:56 AM]


SE raffle tags holder by HntnFsh
[Today at 05:39:57 AM]


11th Annual 'Pull For Scouting' Clay Crushing Classic by high_hunter
[Today at 12:27:18 AM]


AKC lab puppies! Born 06/10/2025 follow as they grow!!! by high_hunter
[Today at 12:21:33 AM]


Ritzville Rifle Buck - GMU 284 by high_hunter
[Yesterday at 11:49:16 PM]


Antlerless Moose more than once? by shootem
[Yesterday at 11:25:51 PM]


Nooksack Muzzleloader Bull Tag by high_hunter
[Yesterday at 10:42:24 PM]


My wife drew quality deer DESERT rifle 10/18-10/26!!!!! by high_hunter
[Yesterday at 10:17:15 PM]


Palouse buck deer by blumtnelkndeer
[Yesterday at 10:14:00 PM]


Drew Quality by Jimmer
[Yesterday at 09:34:00 PM]


Nevada guide draw Mule Deer by Beastmonger1987
[Yesterday at 09:33:34 PM]


Quality Swakane by Rainier10
[Yesterday at 09:09:17 PM]


Observatory quality bull rifle by buglebuster
[Yesterday at 09:00:02 PM]


Anterless 1334 muzzle loader by Bdawg
[Yesterday at 08:46:31 PM]


A little Martini Cadet varmint rifle I have been working on by JDHasty
[Yesterday at 08:43:33 PM]


Pogue Quality by geauxtigers
[Yesterday at 08:38:35 PM]


2025 OILS! by HUNTNORTHWEST
[Yesterday at 07:46:27 PM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal