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Should 22 cal centerfire be legal for deer

Yes
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Offline dan11011

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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #105 on: December 28, 2016, 12:21:19 PM »
And any kind of ban on guns will lead to no guns at all ,so making 223 a sporting caliber does help your gun rights,let's say someone starts plinking people with a rem 700 do you think there not gonna try to ban it too.

"Any kind of ban on guns will lead to no guns at all" this is a common misconception but is not true. Rules in the hunting regs are there to keep hunting ethical. Not to take away rights.

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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #106 on: December 28, 2016, 01:06:46 PM »
The concern I have is the guy that buys the $500 Dick's special AR-15 as his "all rounder" and then sprays a deer 300 yards away with a volley of shots.

There are already too many jack-asses in the woods. I would vote to keep the 223 out of general for this reason. We also don't need anymore negative news stories about the AR.

That is a very real and valid concern.

Really? Show me a single hunting incident in WA related to an AR and someone "spraying a deer at 300 yards with a volley of shots".  Because people have been hunting here with ARs for years.

You guys need to quit reading the NYT Editorial pages. It's a gun, no matter how black it is. I can't even believe this was posted AND acknowledged as a "valid concern". No wonder we keep losing ground in the gun rights arena.
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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #107 on: December 28, 2016, 01:33:01 PM »
There are plenty of things to change that would/may make a meaningful positive difference.



This is not one of them.  :twocents:
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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #108 on: December 28, 2016, 01:37:45 PM »
I'm starting to wonder why some here are only advocating for a minimum caliber.  If we're going to restrict people's choice of weapon, let's do it right and specify a single caliver for each species. Maybe even a specific cartridge.  Oh! How about a specific cartridge, gun and optics package.  Clearly, my favorite deer hunting rig is all you really should be considering as an ethical hunter.

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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #109 on: December 28, 2016, 01:42:51 PM »
There are plenty of things to change that would/may make a meaningful positive difference.



This is not one of them.  :twocents:

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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #110 on: December 28, 2016, 01:44:42 PM »
There are plenty of things to change that would/may make a meaningful positive difference.



This is not one of them.  :twocents:

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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #111 on: December 28, 2016, 02:06:00 PM »
 :yeah:  Most logical post I have seen all month. 

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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #112 on: December 28, 2016, 02:11:48 PM »
as long as you paint your AR some other color besides black it would be fine. They kill better that way
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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #113 on: December 28, 2016, 02:15:54 PM »
If it ain't broke don't fix it !!! I don't see any need for peeps to hunt deer with a .22 NOTHING, enough people have trouble putting them on the deck with big calibers.. :twocents:
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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #114 on: December 28, 2016, 02:19:15 PM »
as long as you paint your AR some other color besides black it would be fine. They kill better that way
I thought black made them super deadly, and into an 'assault' rifle?

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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #115 on: December 28, 2016, 02:20:28 PM »
as long as you paint your AR some other color besides black it would be fine. They kill better that way
I thought black made them super deadly, and into an 'assault' rifle?
it in fact makes them Super Predators according to Killary
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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #116 on: December 28, 2016, 08:10:18 PM »
The concern I have is the guy that buys the $500 Dick's special AR-15 as his "all rounder" and then sprays a deer 300 yards away with a volley of shots.

There are already too many jack-asses in the woods. I would vote to keep the 223 out of general for this reason. We also don't need anymore negative news stories about the AR.

That is a very real and valid concern.

Really? Show me a single hunting incident in WA related to an AR and someone "spraying a deer at 300 yards with a volley of shots".  Because people have been hunting here with ARs for years.

You guys need to quit reading the NYT Editorial pages. It's a gun, no matter how black it is. I can't even believe this was posted AND acknowledged as a "valid concern". No wonder we keep losing ground in the gun rights arena.

I have provided documentation wherein spraying big game with a volley of shots from an AR15 was actively being advocated for and discussed online as a legitimate big game hunting method. 

I did not find that particular discussion in the NYT Editorial pages, I found it being discussed a little closer to home.

Each time I post the documentation that people's concern that the mentality that that practice is a legitimate hunting method, actually does exist... it is removed.

 



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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #117 on: December 28, 2016, 09:10:24 PM »
The concern I have is the guy that buys the $500 Dick's special AR-15 as his "all rounder" and then sprays a deer 300 yards away with a volley of shots.

There are already too many jack-asses in the woods. I would vote to keep the 223 out of general for this reason. We also don't need anymore negative news stories about the AR.

That is a very real and valid concern.

Really? Show me a single hunting incident in WA related to an AR and someone "spraying a deer at 300 yards with a volley of shots".  Because people have been hunting here with ARs for years.

You guys need to quit reading the NYT Editorial pages. It's a gun, no matter how black it is. I can't even believe this was posted AND acknowledged as a "valid concern". No wonder we keep losing ground in the gun rights arena.

AR-10s and ARs in 6x are legal but they are for the most part out the price range of the jack-ass community and under their radar.

I don't read the New York Times editorials. I base my opinion on my own experiences and that of others.

I know someone who was nearly killed during general firearm by someone bush shooting. Where I target shoot is basically a warzone opening weekend. I had 10 trucks pass my spot in less than 30 minutes during the second weekend this year.

No I do not want $500 ARs in general. I would ban semis in general with the exception of shotguns.

Certain areas of Western Washington are overhunted and overran with jack-asses. I don't know the answer but I do not want to throw $500 ARs in the mix.

And I own an AR-15.

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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #118 on: December 29, 2016, 05:52:22 AM »
You lost me with "...I would ban...". How does a gun owner even go there? Incredible.
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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #119 on: December 29, 2016, 08:12:34 AM »
I would bet there are just as many Jack-Asses as there are AR's. Jack-Asses and semi-auto's are a very bad mix. Too bad we can't just ban the Jack-Asses that are ruining it for everyone.
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