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Re: Tribes at it again...no fish records for 2016
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2016, 02:21:39 PM »
Not to stir the pot but, tribal catch is not foyable. Especially when you foyer a governing body that does not govern the tribes. This is a prime example of an article that sounds good, evokes emotion but is not factual. It's a common misunderstanding that the tribes are managed by the state, they are not. The tribes are co-managers with the state, tribes write their own regulations, have agreed to quotas, catch sharing plans, and commercial and ceremonial catch is recorded.

Now google the Northwest Indian Fish Commission website. You can read about some management and projects from the tribes here.

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Re: Tribes at it again...no fish records for 2016
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2016, 02:25:45 PM »
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The tribes are co-managers with the state, tribes write their own regulations, have quotas agreed to quotas, catch sharing plans, and commercial and ceremonial catch is recorded.

If they're co-managers they should let the other half know how many they caught or it isn't much of a partnership.

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Re: Tribes at it again...no fish records for 2016
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2016, 02:30:55 PM »
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The tribes are co-managers with the state, tribes write their own regulations, have quotas agreed to quotas, catch sharing plans, and commercial and ceremonial catch is recorded.

If they're co-managers they should let the other half know how many they caught or it isn't much of a partnership.

The state has the tribal catch numbers. They are not allowed to release it, it is privileged information since it's related to treaty rights an individual income of specific tribes, or tribal members

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Re: Tribes at it again...no fish records for 2016
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2016, 02:32:03 PM »
Thanks for the clarification

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Re: Tribes at it again...no fish records for 2016
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2016, 03:30:52 PM »
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The tribes are co-managers with the state, tribes write their own regulations, have quotas agreed to quotas, catch sharing plans, and commercial and ceremonial catch is recorded.

If they're co-managers they should let the other half know how many they caught or it isn't much of a partnership.

The state has the tribal catch numbers. They are not allowed to release it, it is privileged information since it's related to treaty rights an individual income of specific tribes, or tribal members
so the state never reveals tribal fish numbers?

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Re: Tribes at it again...no fish records for 2016
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2016, 03:46:03 PM »
Privileged info. My derriere
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Re: Tribes at it again...no fish records for 2016
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2016, 04:10:47 PM »
A little story related to Indians netting fish. This last summer my 5yr old and I were tinkering around the peir in hoodsport when one of the native netting boats pulls up. I ask him how the fishing is going and he says pretty good. He looks at my little boy and asks he he wants to see a fish. My boy gets all excited and says yes so we walk over to the boat and the guy holds up a nice king. I then notice my kid isn't looking at the fish but looking around the inside of the boat. I ask what he's looking for and he says, dad, where's his fishing pole? Priceless!

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Re: Tribes at it again...no fish records for 2016
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2016, 04:13:38 PM »
 :chuckle: great story.  :tup:
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Re: Tribes at it again...no fish records for 2016
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2016, 05:28:25 PM »
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The tribes are co-managers with the state, tribes write their own regulations, have quotas agreed to quotas, catch sharing plans, and commercial and ceremonial catch is recorded.

If they're co-managers they should let the other half know how many they caught or it isn't much of a partnership.

The state has the tribal catch numbers. They are not allowed to release it, it is privileged information since it's related to treaty rights an individual income of specific tribes, or tribal members
so the state never reveals tribal fish numbers?

And there is the problem...no transperancy because of a treaty that is obsolete.

Such crap.
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Re: Tribes at it again...no fish records for 2016
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2016, 05:56:19 PM »
Not to stir the pot but, tribal catch is not foyable. Especially when you foyer a governing body that does not govern the tribes. This is a prime example of an article that sounds good, evokes emotion but is not factual. It's a common misunderstanding that the tribes are managed by the state, they are not. The tribes are co-managers with the state, tribes write their own regulations, have agreed to quotas, catch sharing plans, and commercial and ceremonial catch is recorded.

Now google the Northwest Indian Fish Commission website. You can read about some management and projects from the tribes here.
:yeah:

This isn't a quality article. NWIFC does provide good info for their tribes, including big game harvest reports.

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Re: Tribes at it again...no fish records for 2016
« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2016, 06:14:00 PM »
Not to stir the pot but, tribal catch is not foyable. Especially when you foyer a governing body that does not govern the tribes. This is a prime example of an article that sounds good, evokes emotion but is not factual. It's a common misunderstanding that the tribes are managed by the state, they are not. The tribes are co-managers with the state, tribes write their own regulations, have agreed to quotas, catch sharing plans, and commercial and ceremonial catch is recorded.

Now google the Northwest Indian Fish Commission website. You can read about some management and projects from the tribes here.

The banner kind of says it all........ Truth, Law, and Reality Based Washington Wildlife and Fisheries News.

That could be Reality, like Reality TV. In fact reading some of the other articles, it seems more like the National Enquirer.
 :yeah:

This isn't a quality article. NWIFC does provide good info for their tribes, including big game harvest reports.
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Re: Tribes at it again...no fish records for 2016
« Reply #26 on: December 25, 2016, 06:21:15 PM »
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Re: Tribes at it again...no fish records for 2016
« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2016, 07:34:55 PM »
Not to stir the pot but, tribal catch is not foyable. Especially when you foyer a governing body that does not govern the tribes. This is a prime example of an article that sounds good, evokes emotion but is not factual. It's a common misunderstanding that the tribes are managed by the state, they are not. The tribes are co-managers with the state, tribes write their own regulations, have agreed to quotas, catch sharing plans, and commercial and ceremonial catch is recorded.

Now google the Northwest Indian Fish Commission website. You can read about some management and projects from the tribes here.
:yeah:

This isn't a quality article. NWIFC does provide good info for their tribes, including big game harvest reports.

Can we see tribal big game harvest numbers?

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Re: Tribes at it again...no fish records for 2016
« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2016, 07:40:00 PM »
Not to stir the pot but, tribal catch is not foyable. Especially when you foyer a governing body that does not govern the tribes. This is a prime example of an article that sounds good, evokes emotion but is not factual. It's a common misunderstanding that the tribes are managed by the state, they are not. The tribes are co-managers with the state, tribes write their own regulations, have agreed to quotas, catch sharing plans, and commercial and ceremonial catch is recorded.

Now google the Northwest Indian Fish Commission website. You can read about some management and projects from the tribes here.
:yeah:

This isn't a quality article. NWIFC does provide good info for their tribes, including big game harvest reports.
Can we see tribal big game harvest numbers?
Its on their website

 


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