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Should 22 cal centerfire be legal for deer

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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #210 on: December 31, 2016, 06:18:53 PM »
You ain't gonna make it til midnight JJB at this pace quoting your self with these crazy concoctions. Put that bottle away :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #211 on: December 31, 2016, 06:28:18 PM »
I'll have you know I am at a bar eating dinner and awaiting a call to go to work :(
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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #212 on: December 31, 2016, 06:31:51 PM »
Freedom...it's about freedom. This state has so many rules and regulations that other states do not. I love the 223. It's a great caliber that has plenty of punch in the right conditions for deer. I've shot plenty with them.I'm also manly enough to shoot deer with a 338. I've also shot deer with a compound, recurve, and muzzy. The 223 is a perfect deer killing caliber. We don't need any more rules in this state. We need to fight for less.


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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #213 on: December 31, 2016, 06:43:38 PM »
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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #214 on: December 31, 2016, 06:44:06 PM »
Freedom...it's about freedom. This state has so many rules and regulations that other states do not. I love the 223. It's a great caliber that has plenty of punch in the right conditions for deer. I've shot plenty with them.I'm also manly enough to shoot deer with a 338. I've also shot deer with a compound, recurve, and muzzy. The 223 is a perfect deer killing caliber. We don't need any more rules in this state. We need to fight for less.


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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #215 on: December 31, 2016, 06:54:13 PM »
Freedom...it's about freedom. This state has so many rules and regulations that other states do not. I love the 223. It's a great caliber that has plenty of punch in the right conditions for deer. I've shot plenty with them.I'm also manly enough to shoot deer with a 338. I've also shot deer with a compound, recurve, and muzzy. The 223 is a perfect deer killing caliber. We don't need any more rules in this state. We need to fight for less.


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I take it you're in favor of no minimum caliber restriction?
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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #216 on: December 31, 2016, 06:55:58 PM »
Freedom...it's about freedom. This state has so many rules and regulations that other states do not. I love the 223. It's a great caliber that has plenty of punch in the right conditions for deer. I've shot plenty with them.I'm also manly enough to shoot deer with a 338. I've also shot deer with a compound, recurve, and muzzy. The 223 is a perfect deer killing caliber. We don't need any more rules in this state. We need to fight for less.


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I take it you're in favor of no minimum caliber restriction?
i am, I just think people who do dumb crap that is blatantly unethical should have their souls....how to say this lightly... souls crushed. That's appropriate right?
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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #217 on: December 31, 2016, 06:58:03 PM »
Freedom...it's about freedom. This state has so many rules and regulations that other states do not. I love the 223. It's a great caliber that has plenty of punch in the right conditions for deer. I've shot plenty with them.I'm also manly enough to shoot deer with a 338. I've also shot deer with a compound, recurve, and muzzy. The 223 is a perfect deer killing caliber. We don't need any more rules in this state. We need to fight for less.


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I take it you're in favor of no minimum caliber restriction?
i am, I just think people who do dumb crap that is blatantly unethical should have their souls....how to say this lightly... souls crushed. That's appropriate right?
I don't agree, but think that is a more defensible position than simply changing .24 to .22.
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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #218 on: December 31, 2016, 07:01:27 PM »
Freedom...it's about freedom. This state has so many rules and regulations that other states do not. I love the 223. It's a great caliber that has plenty of punch in the right conditions for deer. I've shot plenty with them.I'm also manly enough to shoot deer with a 338. I've also shot deer with a compound, recurve, and muzzy. The 223 is a perfect deer killing caliber. We don't need any more rules in this state. We need to fight for less.


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I take it you're in favor of no minimum caliber restriction?
I like the freedom to use any centerfire.


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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #219 on: December 31, 2016, 08:11:21 PM »
I think 22 cal for deer. Is much more ethical then 243 for. Ellk.

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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #220 on: January 01, 2017, 02:49:57 PM »
Look, I use a bow for big game. The only reason I have a dog in this fight at all is that hunters shouldn't be trying to dictate standards to other hunters based on their own biases/subjectivity. Live and let live. All due respects; you're not the proper judge of anyone but yourself. Don't want to use another choice? Don't. Pretty simple.

It isn't merely an issue of personal biases or subjectivity. There are government-enforced rules in place and there is a valid question of whether they should be changed.

There is nothing subjective about a 380 auto being a terrible weapon for hunting elk.

And yet Washington rules allow it but not a 223 bolt action rifle.

If you find these discussions offensive to your imagined "right to kill moose with a slingshot" belief then leave yourself out of them. 

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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #221 on: January 01, 2017, 09:19:13 PM »
Look, I use a bow for big game. The only reason I have a dog in this fight at all is that hunters shouldn't be trying to dictate standards to other hunters based on their own biases/subjectivity. Live and let live. All due respects; you're not the proper judge of anyone but yourself. Don't want to use another choice? Don't. Pretty simple.

It isn't merely an issue of personal biases or subjectivity. There are government-enforced rules in place and there is a valid question of whether they should be changed.

There is nothing subjective about a 380 auto being a terrible weapon for hunting elk.

And yet Washington rules allow it but not a 223 bolt action rifle.

If you find these discussions offensive to your imagined "right to kill moose with a slingshot" belief then leave yourself out of them.

This is a forum where everyone is free to speak their opinion. I have spoken my thoughts here and others have  responded positively or negativity.   I respect those comments either way. Its also their opinions which they are entitled to. The more we communicate the more we learn from others. I believe telling someone to leave themselves out of them is completely off base.

We have opinions because we all have a passion for Hunting/fishing/outdoors lifestyle.

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Re: 22 cal for deer
« Reply #222 on: January 03, 2017, 11:54:03 PM »
I can see where both sides are coming from. I personally don't see a reason why .223 can't be used for deer, but I get that people may abuse it... but then again, the people who would abuse it are probably already doing so. Kinda like a 'no-gun zone' will keep out the criminals. :rolleyes:

Perhaps make it legal for Whitetail and Blacktail only. I can see where it might not be ethical taking a mule deer at 400-500 yards, but the others probably won't get that kind of opportunity. If you're really worried about people using ARs and dumping mags, put a 3/4 round limit on magazines similar to a bolt action, kinda similar to upland/waterfowl with a shotgun.

 


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