Hunting guides that shoot (vs just guide)

[hunhntr]

What is your opinion of a hunting guide that shoots? Should he/she be tipped?

[h20hunter]

Need more info.  What kind of hunt?

[Angry Perch]

If he shoots a bear that's charging you, I'd give a pretty good tip!

[huntnfmly]

 

[hunhntr]

Father takes son on first time waterfowl field hunt. Son is fourteen and holding his own shooting both ducks and geese. Guide (also owner) shoots from the get go and adds his birds to overall bag. Father calls BS on this move and allows son to shoot.
Hunt did not go over allowable bag limit.

[92xj]

So...
Father, Son and Guide laying in field.
All 3 shoot at the birds coming into the spread.
All 3 shoot birds and do not go over each of their allowed legal limit.
Is the guide shooting a BS move in this situation?
And since he is shooting at birds, should be not be tipped?
Are those your questions?

[jrebel]

So...
Father, Son and Guide laying in field.
All 3 shoot at the birds coming into the spread.
All 3 shoot birds and do not go over each of their allowed legal limit.
Is the guide shooting a BS move in this situation? 
Is that your question?

 

If so, then no....why not let the guide shoot also?  Now if the guide is filling others limits, that is illegal and totally not cool. 

[bobcat]

I think the guide should ask the hunters if they mind if he shoots too.

[YoungFowler]

If this father was trying to get his kid on birds and the owner was shooting all the singles and doubles and preventing his clients from shooting birds, that wouldn't be cool. And he probably wouldn't get a tip.

But if there were big enough flocks of enough birds for all three the get their share, I would be cool with him shooting.
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[sumpnz]

Did the guide keep his birds, divide the harvest unequally, or give them all to the clients?  Did the guide's shooting interfere with the kid's opportunities to shoot? 

If it was me, and the guide gave us all the birds, or if he kept his own birds but waited to shoot until we'd exhausted our own opportunities, then that's cool.  If he took shot opportunities away from us, and/or kept more than just the birds he shot, not so much.

[C-Money]

Tag...wanna see if the guide is named...

[2MANY]

Guides should guide.
That is what you paid for.
If that was my son and the guide was shooting his birds that guide might find his blind laying flat in quick order.

I call BS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jackelope]

I think the guide should ask the hunters if they mind if he shoots too.

I feel like this is the way to go, and it should be made known up front before it happens. Each hunter has a bag limit. I don't waterfowl hunt and don't know what the limits are, but if it's 6 birds per person, I assume that means that each person can shoot 6 birds. I assume it doesn't mean that if there are 3 people there, 18 birds can be killed regardless of who shoots what. Am I right here?

Were it me, I'd not be ok with the guide shooting until the other 2 killed their limits and a discussion was had to see if all parties wanted to stay and kill another limit.

[Rainier10]

When I went on a guided duck and goose hunt the guides were shooting also. They did ask in advance if it was okay.  We still tipped.

[Houndhunter]

Guides should guide.
That is what you paid for.

That's my take on it. I never hunt with a client, sometimes fish with them but only if I know them on a personal level. It doesn't look professional for the guide or the outfitter. That being said you should always tip your guide, if your unhappy about something be upfront with them