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Cheapest 1500 yard rifle and cartridge for competition
« on: January 05, 2017, 09:23:46 PM »
I'm looking for a rifle for shooting 1400 yards for a fun comp that I'll be in.  Will be making 200 shots per day.  I have good equipment but realized my rifles/loads rate of twist peter out at about 1200 or are too heavy (comp includes endurance runs).  Is sub-$1000, 1/2 moa, sub 8lb, and low kick possible?

Other criteria that also negates some of my equipment: brass and match bullet availability, keeping MOA adjustment overall under 75.

On my radar -> 6.5 cm, 308, 30-06.  Also considering building a savage...

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Re: Cheapest 1500 yard rifle and cartridge for competition
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2017, 09:28:50 PM »
I know that when BH talked about "reasonable" long range guns that won't break the bank 300 win mag  was regularly discussed with long heavy bullets.
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Re: Cheapest 1500 yard rifle and cartridge for competition
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2017, 09:34:10 PM »
Building a savage is probably best bang for your buck accuracy wise. Get a savage action and buy an x-caliber pre-fit, a stock and a trigger.

As for caliber.....with that volume of shooting you're probably going to want something wit low recoil. I'd figure out what BC bullet and velocity you need to remain supersonic at 1400yds and then work backward from there to see what cartridges can provide the bullet bc and velocity. I'd go with smallest case that could do this.

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Re: Cheapest 1500 yard rifle and cartridge for competition
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2017, 09:35:24 PM »
I'm curious to hear what the knowledge gun nuts think about a 1400 yd gun, under 8lbs, that shoots 1/2 moa at under $1K will have to say........

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Re: Cheapest 1500 yard rifle and cartridge for competition
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2017, 09:38:32 PM »
1/2 at 1k yds is a lot to ask for.....1/2 moa at 100yd with a savage with an aftermarket barrel is doable i think.

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Re: Cheapest 1500 yard rifle and cartridge for competition
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2017, 09:58:39 PM »
My brother in law bought one of these. He's in love with it. Not cheap though.
http://www.ruger.com/products/precisionRifle/models.html?r=y
This video might give you something to chew on, especially if you don't want to get beat up by recoil. I'm not sure the distance is repeatable as many rounds as you plan to shoot. Interesting though.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2017, 10:04:43 PM by Eric M »

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Re: Cheapest 1500 yard rifle and cartridge for competition
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2017, 10:18:05 PM »
Wow.
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Re: Cheapest 1500 yard rifle and cartridge for competition
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2017, 10:25:10 PM »
I have seen some guys getting decent results with the Ruger rifle.

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Re: Cheapest 1500 yard rifle and cartridge for competition
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2017, 10:34:55 PM »
Not sure what I'm about to embark on,  i remember when 700 yards seemed far!  😂

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Re: Cheapest 1500 yard rifle and cartridge for competition
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2017, 10:56:14 PM »
I'm curious to hear what the knowledge gun nuts think about a 1400 yd gun, under 8lbs, that shoots 1/2 moa at under $1K will have to say........
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Re: Cheapest 1500 yard rifle and cartridge for competition
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2017, 06:13:52 AM »
It's possible to build a sub 8lb rifle that will shoot under 1/2 moa.  The trick is shooting it consistently at distance.   In the endurance comps we have done we ran rifles in the 10lb range.   Much easier to shoot under pressure.   For cartridge choice, a 6.5 creedmoor is a good choice. 
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Re: Cheapest 1500 yard rifle and cartridge for competition
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2017, 07:14:43 AM »
I own a Ruger Precision in a 243 and it is not a 8 pound gun.  I think mine all decked out is 18 pounds.  It is a shooter all the way out to 1400 yards. :twocents:
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Re: Cheapest 1500 yard rifle and cartridge for competition
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2017, 07:32:46 AM »
I own a Ruger Precision in a 243 and it is not a 8 pound gun.  I think mine all decked out is 18 pounds.  It is a shooter all the way out to 1400 yards. :twocents:

The heaviest the website shows them at 10.8 pounds. The .308 is 9.8 pounds. The only reason I mention that is because I'm interested in the rifle, but not at 18#.
Is it really 18 pounds?
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Re: Cheapest 1500 yard rifle and cartridge for competition
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2017, 07:48:04 AM »
That's a tough one.

If I had to try this with the brief being 1400 yd target, 1/2 MOA 8 lb and under 1k I would consider the following.

Caliber= 6.5 Creedmoor, .260 Rem, 7mmWSM, 6.5 SAUM.

Rifle= Re barreled Savage and a used composite stock.

          Find a Win Coyote 7WSM and put it on a diet.

          Wing it with a bedded Ruger Predator or Savage Axis and spend the extra dough on practice at that distance.

          Sauer 100 http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/05/daniel-zimmerman/new-sauer-sauer-100-classic-xt-rifle/

What is the course of fire? Will you really need a detachable mag?


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Re: Cheapest 1500 yard rifle and cartridge for competition
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2017, 07:52:43 AM »
My Remington 700 Long Range shoots in the 0.7's out of the box with factory ammo.
 :dunno:
Probably an accomplished shooter, a little work and handload would put it into the .5's but it's 9.5 pounds-ish.
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