Goodbye public lands. Thank you congress

[wooltie]

http://www.backcountryhunters.org/house_public_lands_transfer_provision

[Odell]

This is what you get with people who think anything federal outside of the military is evil. States can do many things better but managing public land in the trust of all the people is a job of the federal government.

[Elkaholic daWg]

Maybe if these lands weren't managed mostly by people at the federal level that think ONLY foot traffic be allowed we might not have this problem. There are other user groups being shafted consistently for a long time now..... Maybe if a president could not use his/her pen and phone  with the antiquities act  to do it also  too. Rather burn it than log it....

[pianoman9701]

It would've been helpful for the article to include the bill.

[bigtex]

It would've been helpful for the article to include the bill.

See it in my post I made a couple days ago

[andersonjk4]

It would've been helpful for the article to include the bill.

I don't believe it was a specific bill that was passed.  The language was included in the House's Rules Package.  Here is a decent article summarizing the rules package.  The discussion on land transfer is at the end. 

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/01/04/New-House-rules-No-floor-photography-and-no-mention-of-GOP-ethics-proposal/2841483495650/

[bigtex]

It would've been helpful for the article to include the bill.

I don't believe it was a specific bill that was passed.  The language was included in the House's Rules Package.  Here is a decent article summarizing the rules package.  The discussion on land transfer is at the end. 

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/01/04/New-House-rules-No-floor-photography-and-no-mention-of-GOP-ethics-proposal/2841483495650/

it's done

[baldopepper]

Giving the key to the hen house to the foxes-unfortunately outdoors people of all genre make up the flock.

[12Gauge]

Give away to whom?

[wapiti hunter2]

Them sneaky Republicans.

I guess this should go under Trumps Accomplishments since it will be signed by him.

[Skyvalhunter]

Trump may surprise you as he is for hunters and lets hope he puts the kibosh on this

[pianoman9701]

It would've been helpful for the article to include the bill.

I don't believe it was a specific bill that was passed.  The language was included in the House's Rules Package.  Here is a decent article summarizing the rules package.  The discussion on land transfer is at the end. 

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/01/04/New-House-rules-No-floor-photography-and-no-mention-of-GOP-ethics-proposal/2841483495650/

Thanks.

[Bean Counter]

This is what you get with people who think anything federal outside of the military enumerated powers is evil unconstitutional.

There you go 

States can do many things better but managing public land in the trust of all the people is a job of the federal government.

Because so much wildlife crosses state borders, and I hunt in multiple states, wildlife management should be a job of the federal governemnt, too. Lets hand over wildlife management to the USFWS.  What could possibly go wrong?

[Stein]

States have a great track record at managing wildlife.

States also have a great track record of selling off land.

Since this was a rules package, I don't believe it goes to the pres for signature.

[Bob33]

Them sneaky Republicans.

I guess this should go under Trumps Accomplishments since it will be signed by him.

No, it won't be; there's nothing to sign. It was a change in House rules (effective now) that allows land transfers to occur without consideration of cost.

Oh well - nice try. It's tough when facts get in the way of an agenda.

[baldopepper]

Hunted for years on state forest ground in Utah.  Area had thousands of acres of old growth quaken aspen groves that provided year around habitat for good herds of both deer and elk and also was a major migratory area for the animals higher up.  Family took a lot of both deer and elk from the area.  State then decided (despite objections from game managers) to log the quakies in the area. Within two years they had completely clear cut every quakie in the area, and I mean completely clear cut. Areas that once were pristine groves of old growth and home to great numbers of big game are now huge gouges of clear cut open space with a few stumps and completely void of anything other than squirrels.  When asked about it,  we were told the mandate was to maximize profit from state lands and these quakies were more profitable to the state when cut and ground up to be used to make furnace filters.  Provided several local jobs for the two years it took to denude the area. This is not an isolated incident in the state, short term profits over ride long term game management everytime.  It's not just selling off the land that is a problem.

[huntnphool]

Some States have a great track record at managing wildlife.

Fixed it for you.

[wapiti hunter2]

Them sneaky Republicans.

I guess this should go under Trumps Accomplishments since it will be signed by him.

No, it won't be; there's nothing to sign. It was a change in House rules (effective now) that allows land transfers to occur without consideration of cost.

Oh well - nice try. It's tough when facts get in the way of an agenda.

He will still own it as it occurred with his congress. I sure haven't heard anything (tweets) from him against it.

[Bean Counter]

Them sneaky Republicans.

I guess this should go under Trumps Accomplishments since it will be signed by him.

No, it won't be; there's nothing to sign. It was a change in House rules (effective now) that allows land transfers to occur without consideration of cost.

Oh well - nice try. It's tough when facts get in the way of an agenda.

He will still own it as it occurred with his congress. I sure haven't heard anything (tweets) from him against it.

The POTUS doesn't 'own' Congress. That's why each of our three co-equal branches of government has its own article in our Constitution. Even the lesser referenced SCOTUS probably has more power than it should after Marbury v. Madison. They make up the first three articles and there's only a couple more after that. Its a really liberating document to read some time 

[Fl0und3rz]

You should try it. 

[pianoman9701]

There are four more articles. The Fourth lays out how the states deal with each other and with the federal government. The Fifth lays out the process for amending the Constitution. The Sixth, perhaps the most important of all the articles, establishes the Constitution as the law of the land, and the Seventh Article outlines the ratification process and how it was to be enacted.

[JasonG]

Now, how can we stop this from going any farther?

[bigtex]

Now, how can we stop this from going any farther?

Well what passed the House is already done, it's a change in rules and not like a law change like most bills would be.

We (outdoorsman, environmentalists, and public lands enthusiasts combined) need to be vocal together that any fed lands sale/transfer to the extent that some are proposing is not acceptable.

[wheels]

shouldnt lay down and take it  make enough noise  it will make them re think long shot but i made a petition on we the people or white house.gov

[JasonG]

Everybody sign this please!! Sportsmensaccess.org