SB 5474 Would Create Year Round, Unlimited Season on Hoof Rot Elk

[baker5150]

There is a change in the works because it is an enforcement mess. I think what will end up happening is a permit system where any LEO can issue a salvage permit to a person. No more self reporting.

That's what I am hearing as well. People aren't being honest so now WA could be like other states where an actual permit needs to be issued by an LEO before the animal can be taken.

People don't have all day waiting for an officer to come to the scene. Keep online reporting, and officers come to the address of salvage person to issue tag/permit.

They could easily issue a permit number over the phone and that number could be checked by other LEOs if they are stopped.  Basically only requiring a phone call be made before removing the animal from the scene. 

[bigtex]

which GMUs have hoof rot again....oh man, year round elk season!  With hardly any fishing left....

So, bigtex...would you have to use the method on your tag to shoot hoof rots or if you have an archery tag can you hunt the rest of the year with a rifle?

No tag needed just a "hunting license"

[bigtex]

There is a change in the works because it is an enforcement mess. I think what will end up happening is a permit system where any LEO can issue a salvage permit to a person. No more self reporting.

That's what I am hearing as well. People aren't being honest so now WA could be like other states where an actual permit needs to be issued by an LEO before the animal can be taken.

People don't have all day waiting for an officer to come to the scene. Keep online reporting, and officers come to the address of salvage person to issue tag/permit.

They could easily issue a permit number over the phone and that number could be checked by other LEOs if they are stopped.  Basically only requiring a phone call be made before removing the animal from the scene.

Who's they? WDFW doesn't have a 24 7 communication center

[TONTO]

  About 15 years late, hoof rot started right here in my backyard. Saw my first infected animal right here, a severly infected cow, felt very sorry for the animal and wanted to put her down. A few years later the whole herd had a limp   If we would have treated it more agressivly then we may not have the problem now.

[bearpaw]

There is a change in the works because it is an enforcement mess. I think what will end up happening is a permit system where any LEO can issue a salvage permit to a person. No more self reporting.

That's what I am hearing as well. People aren't being honest so now WA could be like other states where an actual permit needs to be issued by an LEO before the animal can be taken.

People don't have all day waiting for an officer to come to the scene. Keep online reporting, and officers come to the address of salvage person to issue tag/permit.

They could easily issue a permit number over the phone and that number could be checked by other LEOs if they are stopped.  Basically only requiring a phone call be made before removing the animal from the scene.

This sounds reasonable, it works that way in Utah. One of my guides saw a car hit a moose, they left the moose, my guide called Utah DWR and was given an authorization, he recovered the moose, with the authorization it was just like placing a tag on the animal.

Regarding Hoof Rot Elk
Maybe hunters should be required to get a special authorization and it only be given to hunters without a record of violations?

[bearpaw]

which GMUs have hoof rot again....oh man, year round elk season!  With hardly any fishing left....

So, bigtex...would you have to use the method on your tag to shoot hoof rots or if you have an archery tag can you hunt the rest of the year with a rifle?

No tag needed just a "hunting license"

I agree with everyone who thinks there needs to be some form of accountability otherwise it opens the door to excessive poaching. 

[KFhunter]

They are wolf bait. No wonder that bill to relocate wolves to the west side failed...they really don't want wolves over there in any numbers do they?


I said a long time ago wolves were going to explode once they got into that smorgasbord just waiting for them.

[jackmaster]

This may have been answered but are those hoof rot elk safe to eat?

[KFhunter]

This may have been answered but are those hoof rot elk safe to eat?

They say they're safe to eat in the same breath as they say spraying didn't cause it.

[jackmaster]

This may have been answered but are those hoof rot elk safe to eat?

They say they're safe to eat in the same breath as they say spraying didn't cause it.

I just don't think I would have the stomach to eat one!! Did they ever find out EXACTLY what caused it? I think the spraying did it, but they won't admit to that !!

[fireweed]

Don't like it. Here there are lots of limping elk and if every one was open season year round there wouldn't be any elk left.  The elk need a chance to fight the infection off--and if they succeed their calves might inherit a better ability to deal with hoof rot.  Nature works that way. But herd immunity will never develop if every limping elk is shot before it has a chance to fight the disease. 

Nature is hard, Animals suffer, everything dies.  But it works that way.

[Bob33]

This may have been answered but are those hoof rot elk safe to eat?

There is no evidence indicating they are not safe to eat. I would use my senses; sight, smell, and common.

[bowbuild]

There is a change in the works because it is an enforcement mess. I think what will end up happening is a permit system where any LEO can issue a salvage permit to a person. No more self reporting.

That's what I am hearing as well. People aren't being honest so now WA could be like other states where an actual permit needs to be issued by an LEO before the animal can be taken.

Any LEO , or game officer?

[Mudman]

Lot of these elk continue to breed and maybe some of those calves survive.  This is not the answer and would result in elk genocide.  WHY don't they spend their time writing a bill to ban toxic chemicals being sprayed and causing immune compromised elk who cant fight off a normal natural occurring bacteria? 

[Dhoey07]

Doesn't sound like a solution to the problem to me.