Can a Knight big horn 209 be switched to western legal?

[Euro mount]

As the title says I was wondering if all a guy had to do was order a different breach plug to convert it to western legal or is there a difference in the length of the bolt/firing pin?

[Buzz2401]

I have a knight bighorn and I can use 209, musket or regular caps.  Just have to change a few parts that came with gun.

[woodswalker]

I have a knight bighorn and I can use 209, musket or regular caps.  Just have to change a few parts that came with gun.

Exactly so..I have one also.

[Stein]

Yep, just need a different nipple to screw into the breech plug.  Everything else stays the same - except reliability in wet conditions.


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[Euro mount]

lol I know what you mean about wet conditions all to well

[Sabotloader]

lol I know what you mean about wet conditions all to well

Damp weather no biggie... just wrap the breech in plastic wrap

This is a side hammer but the idea remains the same and much easier with an inline breech...

[Euro mount]

That works most of the time ! This years elk hunt nothing worked it rained so much that week !

[Shadrach71]

Yes I too use a Bighorn and as stated just need to change the nipple out in order to be in compliance for WA.

[Stein]

lol I know what you mean about wet conditions all to well

Damp weather no biggie... just wrap the breech in plastic wrap

This is a side hammer but the idea remains the same and much easier with an inline breech...

The game warden at my son's hunter's ed class tickets that as it isn't exposed to the weather.  You can shelter it under your arm, but you can't tape over it or add anything to the gun that keeps it from being exposed to the weather.

[luvmystang67]

lol I know what you mean about wet conditions all to well

Damp weather no biggie... just wrap the breech in plastic wrap

This is a side hammer but the idea remains the same and much easier with an inline breech...

The game warden at my son's hunter's ed class tickets that as it isn't exposed to the weather.  You can shelter it under your arm, but you can't tape over it or add anything to the gun that keeps it from being exposed to the weather.

I've always wondered where this line was...

Its not super clear.

I know a lot of people that load up with petroleum jelly, nail polish, duct tape or whatever else to keep the water out.  Are these legal or illegal?

Is something like this illegal?
http://possibleshop.com/images-flint-supp/lc900.jpg

[Sabotloader]

It should be because it is not an integral part of the muzzleloader

[Oh Mah]

lol I know what you mean about wet conditions all to well

Damp weather no biggie... just wrap the breech in plastic wrap

This is a side hammer but the idea remains the same and much easier with an inline breech...

The game warden at my son's hunter's ed class tickets that as it isn't exposed to the weather.  You can shelter it under your arm, but you can't tape over it or add anything to the gun that keeps it from being exposed to the weather.

I've always wondered where this line was...

Its not super clear.

I know a lot of people that load up with petroleum jelly, nail polish, duct tape or whatever else to keep the water out.  Are these legal or illegal?

Is something like this illegal?
http://possibleshop.com/images-flint-supp/lc900.jpg

I don't think this would be legal,could end up being a warden judgement call..it is not open to the elements if its wrapped,covered may be diff.to be NW legal it only needs little holes but the holes allow air and moisture (elements) in

[Sabotloader]

Washington State Rule...

a.   Ignition is to be wheel lock, matchlock, flintlock, or percussion using original style percussion caps that fit on the nipple and are exposed to the weather. "Exposed to the weather" means the percussion cap or the frizzen must be visible and not capable of being enclosed by an integral part of the weapon proper.

When I presented the question to the WDFW Law Enforcement in an email.  I was told that the last sentence explained their boundaries. The rifle may not have a part built into the rifle that covers or does not allow the visibility of the percussion cap.

There are several devices fashioned by man to keep the breech dry.  These devices have been used long before us modern day hunters.  These devices are not an integral part of the rifle. An integral part would be something that is necessary for the rifle to function.

Cap covers are available as an add on, waxing a cap on can be done, putting a piece of leather around the breech is done and many other ingenious ways of water proofing the cap but none of these are an integral part of the rifle.

But... as has been stated could end up being a warden judgement call...

It would pay to check with the LEO in your area.

Also one way to beat the whole thing is to use #11 caps and a nipple that the cap fits on correctly.  If you have such a nipple the convolutions of the cap will be stretched flat when the cap goes on the nipple making it impervious to water,  the PROBLEM - the only way to get the cap off is to shoot it off or peal it off with a knife blade.

I really wish I could find the email form each of the Pacific North West LEO's

[Oh Mah]

"I REALLY WISH I COULD FIND THE EMAIL FROM EACH OF THE PACIFIC NORTH WEST LEO'S"

 Why was reply different from each one?

[Sabotloader]

"I REALLY WISH I COULD FIND THE EMAIL FROM EACH OF THE PACIFIC NORTH WEST LEO'S"

 Why was reply different from each one?

No it was basically the same but each States rule is writing differently.  Like Idaho's says the cap and nipple must be exposed and visible when in the firing position... If it in a safety position it could be covered - I guess...