Reintroducing Grizzlies

[Colorado Kid]

I just finished writing my comments and emailing them in about the four different options that are being considered for bringing Grizzlies numbers back in the North Cascades. What ever your opinion is concerning this issue, you should read what the four options that are being considered are, and you should send your comments to make sure they are heard. Option A is a lot different than option D. As hunters we need to be heard when it comes to bringing in more apex hunters. Thank you. 

[Mtnwalker]

Where can I read those options?

[vandeman17]

I am going to the public comment session next week.

[splitshot]

   why do we need grizzly bear?  mike w

[Bill W]

   why do we need grizzly bear?  mike w

so you don't have to drive so far to shoot one.

[jasnt]

I Dout a grizz season is in Washingtons future. This state is headed to a predator pit. I will never support more predators in WA!

Why is this in the sponsors classified?

[garrett89]

They don't need re-introduced. They would take up resources from other established critters. Look at what happened when wolves were re-introduced, they are wasting everything in their path. And since they are considered endangered here adding more would give a greater risk for newer people who don't know their bears. Just drop them in the capitol building with Jay Inslee and Bob Ferguson's offices. Seems fair.

[pianoman9701]

I've commented. For those attending the hearing, the USFWS and the WDFW lied to us about the impact of wolves on our state and others, and we knew they were lying when the proposal was made. They withheld information regarding echinococcus granulosus and the extent to which the wolves were infected with it. We have no idea what the next decade holds for us regarding wolf population numbers and the effect it'll have on ungulates, household pets, businesses, and our people. For us to import another apex predator before we can figure out how to control the effect of wolves would be an incredibly horrible wildlife management decision.

[garrett89]

I've commented. For those attending the hearing, the USFWS and the WDFW lied to us about the impact of wolves on our state and others, and we knew they were lying when the proposal was made. They withheld information regarding echinococcus granulosus and the extent to which the wolves were infected with it. We have no idea what the next decade holds for us regarding wolf population numbers and the effect it'll have on ungulates, household pets, businesses, and our people. For us to import another apex predator before we can figure out how to control the effect of wolves would be an incredibly horrible wildlife management decision.

One would think they should eradicate the problem. The people in charge from what I've seen going on in this state are very dumb when it comes to reasoning. E.g. Jay Inslee, Bob Ferguson, and Ed Murray. All of them are morons. If they just kept the stupid ones out of control of things, maybe things will be done with actual facts,reasoning, and tact before any action being takes place.

[BlackRiverTaxidermy]

There are already grizzlies there. Several colleges have been doing studies with wildlife/ecology students. There are bait sites set up in several locations not far from the border, but it is in the North Cascades. These sites are surrounded by barbed wire just high enough off the ground to snag hair from the bears so they can both catalog their DNA as well as 'keep track of them'. Last I heard they have 4-6 confirmed Washington bears that are frequent visitors to the research location (s).
It was the same with the wolves....talk from WDFW spoke about 'reintroducing' a predator species when they already had knowledge, information, and catalog of animals already thriving in the area. They (WDFW) are going to do whatever they are going to do without any input from both the public or sportsman...its total BS.

[pianoman9701]

I've commented. For those attending the hearing, the USFWS and the WDFW lied to us about the impact of wolves on our state and others, and we knew they were lying when the proposal was made. They withheld information regarding echinococcus granulosus and the extent to which the wolves were infected with it. We have no idea what the next decade holds for us regarding wolf population numbers and the effect it'll have on ungulates, household pets, businesses, and our people. For us to import another apex predator before we can figure out how to control the effect of wolves would be an incredibly horrible wildlife management decision.

One would think they should eradicate the problem. The people in charge from what I've seen going on in this state are very dumb when it comes to reasoning. E.g. Jay Inslee, Bob Ferguson, and Ed Murray. All of them are morons. If they just kept the stupid ones out of control of things, maybe things will be done with actual facts,reasoning, and tact before any action being takes place.

When your only real goal is getting re-elected, you pander to the stupid and uninformed.

[Special T]

There are already grizzlies there. Several colleges have been doing studies with wildlife/ecology students. There are bait sites set up in several locations not far from the border, but it is in the North Cascades. These sites are surrounded by barbed wire just high enough off the ground to snag hair from the bears so they can both catalog their DNA as well as 'keep track of them'. Last I heard they have 4-6 confirmed Washington bears that are frequent visitors to the research location (s).
It was the same with the wolves....talk from WDFW spoke about 'reintroducing' a predator species when they already had knowledge, information, and catalog of animals already thriving in the area. They (WDFW) are going to do whatever they are going to do without any input from both the public or sportsman...its total BS.

Do you have a source for that?

[BlackRiverTaxidermy]

Special T
Yes, two Oregon State Game Wardens (not going to mention names) who I hunted with last year and who were investigating a possible poaching of a Washington grizzly several years ago. There was a taxidermist in Oregon that took a bear in with an unusual story of where it came from. They went to take hair samples of the hide which is how they are able to make charges because of the recorded DNA samples of the bears that were in Washington and being researched by biologists and students. They were very detailed of the tracking/recording practices for the bears in the north cascades. I confirmed this information with a Washington state biologist, he was VERY hesitant to confirm but finally said yes, they are there.

[Special T]

Gotcha wasn't quite what I was getting at. Do you know which collages? I was thinking of it at a way to source documents.  Just by asking because your interesed in the subject or FOIA requests at worst.

[bracer40]

I remember reading about a study some years back that described a very similar setup with the barbed wire.
And yes, it's been acknowledged that a small population exists in the North Cascades.