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Hope he got away!
« on: February 26, 2017, 09:19:04 AM »
Frustrated that these elk don't get a break from hunting pressure. :hunt2: :beatdeadhorse:

Do the natives actually have a season they go by?



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Re: Hope he got away!
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2017, 12:07:25 PM »
is your date at the beginning of the video correct?

what tells you this is a native/ tribal member?
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Re: Hope he got away!
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2017, 12:12:22 PM »

The date goes by so fast..........does it say January 2011?  :dunno:
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Re: Hope he got away!
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2017, 12:14:29 PM »
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Re: Hope he got away!
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2017, 01:52:53 PM »
My camera date is incorrect.  It was within the last 3 weeks. 

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Re: Hope he got away!
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2017, 03:11:57 PM »
I don't see what spooked them.  How do you know it's a person?

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Re: Hope he got away!
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2017, 03:12:40 PM »
My camera date is incorrect.  It was within the last 3 weeks.

so what makes you think its a Native?
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Re: Hope he got away!
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2017, 03:40:33 PM »
My camera date is incorrect.  It was within the last 3 weeks.

so what makes you think its a Native?

So what makes you think it's not. For you people that don't live in a area where Tribal hunting occurs, they are still hunting on a daily basis. As far as seasons go it is whenever they want and the restrictions are anything with hair on it.

If someone would like to prove me wrong please post some Trible season dates and regulations.

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Re: Hope he got away!
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2017, 04:25:47 PM »
My camera date is incorrect.  It was within the last 3 weeks.

so what makes you think its a Native?

So what makes you think it's not. For you people that don't live in a area where Tribal hunting occurs, they are still hunting on a daily basis. As far as seasons go it is whenever they want and the restrictions are anything with hair on it.

If someone would like to prove me wrong please post some Trible season dates and regulations.

This is one of the reasons that I ask. I am not tribal myself, however I have worked for and with several tribes in Washington. I was a Fishery manager for one and am now a Wildlife manager for another. I know for a fact that there are hunting seasons and fishing seasons for most if not all tribes.

It frustrates me to see comments such as yours that have no basis other than "they are still hunting on a daily basis. As far as seasons go it is whenever they want and the restrictions are anything with hair on it." Ive lived and worked my whole life around tribes and reservations.

Im not saying there is not a few bad apples that are native, but there are just as many bad apples who are non-native that are out there poaching, stealing trail cameras, harvesting trees, dumping trash, etc. I have seen many of those first hand by non-tribal members.

Im not here to get in a pissing match, I just think its funny that because somebody heard a gun shot on their trail camera that they assume its tribal members. Are there images of this person or the vehicle that was in the area, or any other reason to suspect that it was definitely a tribal member?
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Re: Hope he got away!
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2017, 04:54:03 PM »
Is this a video of some elk running through the woods?  Maybe I'm missing something. How did we get to it being native hunting pressure that's pushing the elk through the woods?
Am I missing something? I mean...it could be a wolf or even one of the new grizzly bears too, right?
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Re: Hope he got away!
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2017, 04:55:24 PM »
Is this a video of some elk running through the woods?  Maybe I'm missing something. How did we get to it being native hunting pressure that's pushing the elk through the woods?
Am I missing something? I mean...it could be a wolf or even one of the new grizzly bears too, right?
There is a gun shot at the end of the video. That doesn't make it tribal, it could be poaching.  It could be someone just shooting coyotes in the area and spooking the elk at the same time.
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Re: Hope he got away!
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2017, 04:57:35 PM »
Is this a video of some elk running through the woods?  Maybe I'm missing something. How did we get to it being native hunting pressure that's pushing the elk through the woods?
Am I missing something? I mean...it could be a wolf or even one of the new grizzly bears too, right?
There is a gun shot at the end of the video. That doesn't make it tribal, it could be poaching.  It could be someone just shooting coyotes in the area and spooking the elk at the same time.
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Re: Hope he got away!
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2017, 05:00:43 PM »
Is this a video of some elk running through the woods?  Maybe I'm missing something. How did we get to it being native hunting pressure that's pushing the elk through the woods?
Am I missing something? I mean...it could be a wolf or even one of the new grizzly bears too, right?
There is a gun shot at the end of the video. That doesn't make it tribal, it could be poaching.  It could be someone just shooting coyotes in the area and spooking the elk at the same time.
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Re: Hope he got away!
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2017, 06:12:35 PM »
Yes this is an assumption that it was a native that was shooting at the elk, because I have only ever encountered natives in this area while checking my camera's and they usually have dead elk they are processing, along with other elk carcasses from fresh kills that are dumped along the road.  Last winter I hiked in the snow, cougar hunting and heard a shot below me.  An elk had crossed the road on my way back down with a blood trail and dragging his left front leg. no one made an attempt to track this bull. it had been hours since the shot and the road below me where the shot was from was only two hundred yards. and yes the natives were driving the roads that day. frustrating :bash:

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Re: Hope he got away!
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2017, 05:41:47 AM »
My camera date is incorrect.  It was within the last 3 weeks.

so what makes you think its a Native?

So what makes you think it's not. For you people that don't live in a area where Tribal hunting occurs, they are still hunting on a daily basis. As far as seasons go it is whenever they want and the restrictions are anything with hair on it.

If someone would like to prove me wrong please post some Trible season dates and regulations.

This is one of the reasons that I ask. I am not tribal myself, however I have worked for and with several tribes in Washington. I was a Fishery manager for one and am now a Wildlife manager for another. I know for a fact that there are hunting seasons and fishing seasons for most if not all tribes.

It frustrates me to see comments such as yours that have no basis other than "they are still hunting on a daily basis. As far as seasons go it is whenever they want and the restrictions are anything with hair on it." Ive lived and worked my whole life around tribes and reservations.

Im not saying there is not a few bad apples that are native, but there are just as many bad apples who are non-native that are out there poaching, stealing trail cameras, harvesting trees, dumping trash, etc. I have seen many of those first hand by non-tribal members.

Im not here to get in a pissing match, I just think its funny that because somebody heard a gun shot on their trail camera that they assume its tribal members. Are there images of this person or the vehicle that was in the area, or any other reason to suspect that it was definitely a tribal member?

So why don't you post the hunting and fishing seasons for the tribes you represent and maybe others you've worked for. It would be interesting to see.
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