Spring Bear Draw Date Poll

[Skillet]

I am not kidding. 

[emac]

Only around 4000 applications. Trophyhunt correct himself said he had one to many celebration adult beverages when he said 7000

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[Calvin Rayborn]

I am not kidding.

OK then...When I put that extra zero on my tax return by accident...you totally will have my back in court, right? It was an honest mistake your honor. Skillet agrees with me! Let's be "fair" about this...

[Skillet]

I am not kidding.

OK then...When I put that extra zero on my tax return by accident...you totally will have my back in court, right? It was an honest mistake your honor. Skillet agrees with me! Let's be "fair" about this...

I have no idea what you're trying to say.

[Bob33]

2. Results are finalized and sent out to everyone's "WDFW WILD system" accounts in "real-time." Several individuals discover that they were selected for permits.

Why are you concluding these results were "finalized"? From reports I read, multiple results were being displayed for applicants throughout the day as the system was being tested. Some saw their point totals change up to ten times.

[WA1232]

Calvin in clearly a troll. Quit feeding the troll.

[bobcat]

My last comment on this subject...to those who didn't draw- better luck next year.

[Calvin Rayborn]

I am not kidding.

OK then...When I put that extra zero on my tax return by accident...you totally will have my back in court, right? It was an honest mistake your honor. Skillet agrees with me! Let's be "fair" about this...

I have no idea what you're trying to say.

I'm saying that if I don't take care of my own paperwork correctly (my incorrectly filled out tax form is an analogy to the 2 applicants that did not fill out their apps properly) I wouldn't expect any special treatment from the government nor should I get any. You screw up, you face the consequences. These guys deserve a ghost point and no further consideration, plain and simple. You don't place your bet right you leave the table.

[Calvin Rayborn]

Calvin in clearly a troll. Quit feeding the troll.

Show me one comment that I have made that didn't have sound logic to it (unless your philosophy is of a socialist bent). Through the multiple putdowns and "tinfoil hat" insults I've recieved, I've managed to maintain my composure and state the facts. I will admit some sarcastic replies, but only directed toward put-downs from the real "trolls" and people making generally meaningless comments...

[h20hunter]

Take a breath. Relax.

[Skillet]

I am not kidding.

OK then...When I put that extra zero on my tax return by accident...you totally will have my back in court, right? It was an honest mistake your honor. Skillet agrees with me! Let's be "fair" about this...

I have no idea what you're trying to say.

I'm saying that if I don't take care of my own paperwork correctly (my incorrectly filled out tax form is an analogy to the 2 applicants that did not fill out their apps properly) I wouldn't expect any special treatment from the government nor should I get any. You screw up, you face the consequences. These guys deserve a ghost point and no further consideration, plain and simple. You don't place your bet right you leave the table.

Thanks for clarifying.  In principle, I agree with you. However, in this case, I think the WDFW made the right call given the circumstances, for the reasons I've stated.  I condemn WDFW when it's appropriate, and give them credit when it is as well.

It is unfortunate that people got their hopes up before the draw was declared official. I am hoping they take the lessons learned (both WDFW and those whose hopes were dashed) and apply them before the major draws in a few months.

[Calvin Rayborn]

2. Results are finalized and sent out to everyone's "WDFW WILD system" accounts in "real-time." Several individuals discover that they were selected for permits.

Why are you concluding these results were "finalized"? From reports I read, multiple results were being displayed for applicants throughout the day as the system was being tested. Some saw their point totals change up to ten times.

Via several reliable sources who contacted WDFW directly. Whether the results were finalized or not is beside the point that I as well as several others, are trying to make. The new "WDFW WILD" system is a "real time" system just like eBay or Amazon or any other modern website. This isn't 1985 dial up Internet, 15 minutes for a page to load...We pay good money for these guys to get things right. They have chosen to go this route. No American consumer in their right mind would put up with getting results revoked, flipped around upwards and downwards like this. Can you imagine your online bank account numbers/values flipping around before your very eyes like this, and then the bank tells you to wait until they decide what your "finalized" balance is? The whole thing is unacceptable, results need to be final the second they're posted or not at all.

[Jonathan_S]

2. Results are finalized and sent out to everyone's "WDFW WILD system" accounts in "real-time." Several individuals discover that they were selected for permits.

Why are you concluding these results were "finalized"? From reports I read, multiple results were being displayed for applicants throughout the day as the system was being tested. Some saw their point totals change up to ten times.

Via several reliable sources who contacted WDFW directly. Whether the results were finalized or not is beside the point that I as well as several others, are trying to make. The new "WDFW WILD" system is a "real time" system just like eBay or Amazon or any other modern website. This isn't 1985 dial up Internet, 15 minutes for a page to load...We pay good money for these guys to get things right. They have chosen to go this route. No American consumer in their right mind would put up with getting results revoked, flipped around upwards and downwards like this. Can you imaging your online bank account numbers/values flipping around like this, and the bank tells you to wait until what we decide what your "finalized" balance is? The whole thing is unacceptable, results need to be final the second they're posted or not at all.

Dude we hear what you're saying, you don't have to type it six ways from Sunday.

Try to find another way to say it and we'll still not agree with you

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

I agree. I'd be mad as heck if we lost our selected status.  They shouldn't be updating in real time Until it's official. I'm sure they'll get it better next time and redraws will be
Old news. But like I said checking obsessively is gonna hurt you in a case like this.

[Calvin Rayborn]

2. Results are finalized and sent out to everyone's "WDFW WILD system" accounts in "real-time." Several individuals discover that they were selected for permits.

Why are you concluding these results were "finalized"? From reports I read, multiple results were being displayed for applicants throughout the day as the system was being tested. Some saw their point totals change up to ten times.

Via several reliable sources who contacted WDFW directly. Whether the results were finalized or not is beside the point that I as well as several others, are trying to make. The new "WDFW WILD" system is a "real time" system just like eBay or Amazon or any other modern website. This isn't 1985 dial up Internet, 15 minutes for a page to load...We pay good money for these guys to get things right. They have chosen to go this route. No American consumer in their right mind would put up with getting results revoked, flipped around upwards and downwards like this. Can you imaging your online bank account numbers/values flipping around like this, and the bank tells you to wait until what we decide what your "finalized" balance is? The whole thing is unacceptable, results need to be final the second they're posted or not at all.

Dude we hear what you're saying, you don't have to type it six ways from Sunday.

Try to find another way to say it and we'll still not agree with you

What is there to disagree with?
So you're calling yourself out as a troll then? What would you do, Jonathan, to fix this? And don't feed me the "wait until it's official" ill- logic, because, in that case, there shouldn't be a computer system that posts results prematurely for the public to see...just makes no sense. Simple as that