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Have thia firearm and not exactly sure what I have, seeing if any of the old firearm buffs can help me out.  Arrel is marked Gusstahl Krupp Essen (assuming thats the metal used)  on receiver it is stamped 2.7 96 B.P. below that is ST.M. G  bore looks like maybe just shy of 3/8" so maybe 8mm something or other? Just curious on what it is.  Thanks in advance, Crab.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2017, 06:49:42 PM by crabcreekhunter »
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Re: WW1-WW2? German rifle possibly?
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2017, 08:37:39 PM »
Looks like a nice one.  Thinking a Mauser 66.

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Re: WW1-WW2? German rifle possibly?
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2017, 08:40:33 PM »
Any idea on how to figure out the chambering?  Dual trigger, rear cocks fire pin assembly and front fires, super light trigger just as good as my timneys!
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Re: WW1-WW2? German rifle possibly?
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2017, 08:51:04 PM »
Set trigger. You should be able to fire it from the front trigger without setting it first, but the pull # will be pretty high.

On a flyer, I'm guessing 8mm mauser.   Floorplate or blind mag?

Nice piece.

Edited to add: just saw the floorplate release inside the trigger guard.
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Re: WW1-WW2? German rifle possibly?
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2017, 08:56:46 PM »
http://www.gunauction.com/buy/13069240

to find chambering, you'll need cerrosafe. 

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Re: WW1-WW2? German rifle possibly?
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2017, 08:58:37 PM »
Has a floor plate and metal buttstock is numbered 19926.  Without a definative answer on what it is, any ball park number on value?
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Re: WW1-WW2? German rifle possibly?
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2017, 08:59:14 PM »
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Re: WW1-WW2? German rifle possibly?
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2017, 09:00:32 PM »
looks to be pretty collectible.

http://forums.gunboards.com/archive/index.php/t-36101.html


scratch that one.  It's a Mauser 1888.  Different action.
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Re: WW1-WW2? German rifle possibly?
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2017, 09:07:56 PM »
if it is 8mm, there are two types one is .317 and the later 'JS' is .323 cal.  That rifle looks old enough to maybe be in the earlier cal.   :dunno:  The rounded grip and the cheekpiece look characteristic to pre-WWI.

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Re: WW1-WW2? German rifle possibly?
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2017, 12:09:12 PM »
 :yeah:  have a chamber cast done and get the barrel slugged.

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Re: WW1-WW2? German rifle possibly?
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2017, 03:11:53 PM »
+1 on the chamber cast and slugging the bore.  It is NOT a military rifle but a finely crafted turn of the century sporting rifle.

There were a plethora of private chamberrings from the various makers, even bore diameters.  If the bore is still in shooting condition it would be a fun gun to return to the field.

Buffalo Arms carries a wonderful selection of ammo, bullets, brass and reloading dies for the old ones.  C&H4D has about the largest selection of reloading dies also at very reasonable prices.  I needed a set of 6.5x58R Sauer dies and a swaging die to take .264 bullets down to .260 for the gun.  C&H4D had them on the shelf, the gun shoot sub MOA groups at 200 yard but it is a fairly new gun made in 1926 the last listing for ammo was 1931.
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Re: WW1-WW2? German rifle possibly?
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2017, 07:20:45 PM »
Thanks AWS, I was kind of leaning toward that conclusion also.  Wondering how you came to that conclusion? Bore appears to be in very good shape no rusting or pitting anywhere, been kept in a safe with silica and a humidifier for who knows how long.  Will have to read up on casting and slugging, only ever been involved with "modern" rifles for the most part.  Has a crack in the stock behind the action, that may need work.  Would be pretty neat to tske it out for a go on a branched bull.
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Re: WW1-WW2? German rifle possibly?
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2017, 10:31:08 PM »
Jay.sharkbait your a stud and nailed it with your revision.  That is definitely it, just spent a while looking it over on the googler.  Hope I can narrow down some more specs on it and carefully take it apart to see what markings are hidden underneath.
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Re: WW1-WW2? German rifle possibly?
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2017, 11:29:56 PM »
Check out this one on Gunbroker. They want $1995 for it:

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/627881249

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Re: WW1-WW2? German rifle possibly?
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2017, 09:27:36 AM »
Late to the game..easy one! Hang onto for sure👍
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