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Which would you prefer for big game?

300 WSM
85 (90.4%)
6.5mm SAUM/PRC
9 (9.6%)

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Offline Jonathan_S

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Re: 300 WSM?
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2017, 05:04:18 PM »
Nope, I only loaded for 180 ABs, 190 ABLR and 215 Berger Hybrids. Stuck on the 215s  :tup: especially after shooting about a dozen coyotes in windy conditions. They buck the wind incredibly for a 30 cal IMO
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Re: 300 WSM?
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2017, 05:10:52 PM »
Nice!  Yeah I knew with the heavies I was gonna have length issues.  Stock is getting painted right now but when it's back I'm gonna mess with seating depth some more.  Good luck on whichever you choose.  Both great calibers.  I'm partial to the 30's though :chuckle:

Check out the new 3B...
http://pacifictoolandgauge.com/internal-magazine-boxes/7786-3-b-bainey-magazine-box.html
that mag length will put the 215 berger at max oal (boat tail/bearing surface right at neck/shoulder)
With a reamer set up for that length that could be a smoker!

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Re: 300 WSM?
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2017, 05:22:31 PM »
I built a 300wsm last year.  Trued remington 700 action, HCA 26" carbon barrel, seekins brake, bedded in a mcmillan gamescout. 

What does that rig weigh in at?  I'm fantasizing about building a mountain rifle.  Though thinking of .358 WSM/Sambar.  I'd go shorter on the barrel both for weight reduction and reducing snags while hiking.  Probably won't ever do it, but curious what yours weighed at the end.
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Re: 300 WSM?
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2017, 05:23:53 PM »
6.5 would be cool for a light weight go getter deer gun....but if your looking for a sniper you might as well take advantage of heavey bullets....they seem to kill stuff  :chuckle:

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Re: 300 WSM?
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2017, 05:46:23 PM »
6.5 would be cool for a light weight go getter deer gun....but if your looking for a sniper you might as well take advantage of heavey bullets....they seem to kill stuff  :chuckle:

I'm not looking for a sniper build, otherwise I'd be going with something in a long action and a Norma/Lapua bolt face. Hoping to get this rifle finished around 11 lbs loaded, scoped and set up with bipod.

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Re: 300 WSM?
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2017, 05:50:02 PM »
that mag length will put the 215 berger at max oal (boat tail/bearing surface right at neck/shoulder)
With a reamer set up for that length that could be a smoker!

I'm hoping to hit the 3250' accuracy node with the 166gr Hammer Hunter in the nitrided barrel, if I went through with the 300 build. That will hammer anything I want to shoot out further than I care to hunt the big stuff; I prefer to get in as close as possible.

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Re: 300 WSM?
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2017, 05:56:42 PM »
How much will that nitride help with copper fouling from the hammer bullets?
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Re: 300 WSM?
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2017, 06:05:59 PM »
6.5 would be cool for a light weight go getter deer gun....but if your looking for a sniper you might as well take advantage of heavey bullets....they seem to kill stuff  :chuckle:

I'm not looking for a sniper build, otherwise I'd be going with something in a long action and a Norma/Lapua bolt face. Hoping to get this rifle finished around 11 lbs loaded, scoped and set up with bipod.

If your not going for a sniper then why build an 11 pound rifle with a vertical grip ?

Just curious

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Re: 300 WSM?
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2017, 06:50:02 PM »
If your not going for a sniper then why build an 11 pound rifle with a vertical grip ?

Just curious

I have come to prefer the ergonomics of a vertical grip in relation to muscle memory for how I pull the trigger. I've also found I shoot my best while in the 10-11 lbs range with a hunting rifle.
The rifle in my avatar was 10.4 lbs RTH. I tried a Kimber Montana in 270WSM with a Leupold VX3 2.5-8 before this but could never shoot as well. It was, however, an absolute joy to pack into the backcountry. My rifle before that was a 6.5mm Sherman that was just a touch over 12 lbs and shot lights out.
I'm always on the hunt for my perfect hunting rifle and at some point, down the line, I will find it. Hoping to enjoy the long road to discovery along the way though 😉

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Re: 300 WSM?
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2017, 06:50:52 PM »
I built a 300wsm last year.  Trued remington 700 action, HCA 26" carbon barrel, seekins brake, bedded in a mcmillan gamescout.  I'm shooting the 212 eldx using a stout load of h4831sc.  Trued velocity is 2,905 fps.  The 6.5's are nasty little suckers.  My next gun will be a 6.5-06ai.  My only complaint about my short action is limited seating depth with the big pills.  Wyatts box mag still doesn't give my load enough room.

The new 3B extended mag is set up for a 3.110" COAL. I'm planning to run the 166gr Hammer Hunter if I go with a 300, otherwise the 127gr LRX from Barnes in the 6.5mm option, whichever I decide. I shouldn't bother the powder column with that overall length in those bullet weights.
I'm also planning to get the barreled action nitrided, which should improve velocity, not just durability.
The Borden Ridgeline action solves the problem of mag length it's a medium length action.

https://bordenrifles.com/category/news/


Getting the right fit in an action for mid length cartridges has been a challenge for years. Many cartridges like the 257 Roberts, 6.5×55 Mauser, 6MM Remington, 284 Win, 6.5×284 Win and the WSM and RSAUM cartridges have been put in the standard short action which restricts overall length of the cartridge and effects its efficiency. Those same cartridges when done in standard long action result in excess space in the magazine well. For that reason we have introduced the Ridgeline series of actions which feature an opening of 3.2 inches in the magazine box


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Re: 300 WSM?
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2017, 06:51:37 PM »
Sheesh id think the 6.5 Sherman would have ended the search!
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Re: 300 WSM?
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2017, 06:57:10 PM »
If your not going for a sniper then why build an 11 pound rifle with a vertical grip ?

Just curious

I have come to prefer the ergonomics of a vertical grip in relation to muscle memory for how I pull the trigger. I've also found I shoot my best while in the 10-11 lbs range with a hunting rifle.
The rifle in my avatar was 10.4 lbs RTH. I tried a Kimber Montana in 270WSM with a Leupold VX3 2.5-8 before this but could never shoot as well. It was, however, an absolute joy to pack into the backcountry. My rifle before that was a 6.5mm Sherman that was just a touch over 12 lbs and shot lights out.
I'm always on the hunt for my perfect hunting rifle and at some point, down the line, I will find it. Hoping to enjoy the long road to discovery along the way though 😉
I agree with you on ergonomics of a vertical grip and the weight of a 10- 11 lb rifle that extra weight keep me on the target all the way through impact especially from the prone position.

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Re: 300 WSM?
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2017, 07:09:57 PM »
We took a 330 class bull last fall - buddy shot Browning Xbolt 300 WSM at 660 yards with factory ammo. One shot kill thru shoulders. Im a believer.

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Re: 300 WSM?
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2017, 07:15:41 PM »
Sheesh id think the 6.5 Sherman would have ended the search!

When I said I will eventually find my perfect rifle... I may have stretched the truth a bit. It's a moving target and while I may hit it occasionally, inevitably I find something that "fits" more.
I should've never sent that 6.5 Sherman down the river, but the grass is always greener...

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Re: 300 WSM?
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2017, 07:19:56 PM »
We took a 330 class bull last fall - buddy shot Browning Xbolt 300 WSM at 660 yards with factory ammo. One shot kill thru shoulders. Im a believer.

That's a nice looking rack!
What round did the epic job?!

 


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