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Legal Muzzleloaders - Help with a Shortlist
« on: March 19, 2009, 04:02:41 PM »
Hey guys, I know its annoying when some new guy comes on and asks the same question that has been asked and answered a million times.....so sorry if this has

Can you guys share a collective shortlist of muzzleloaders legal for WA.  I'm trying decide if this is something I'd like to try this year and I have no experience.   

For instance does the CVA ELKHORN 209 MAGNUM BOLT ACTION meet the WA requirement for an exposed primer?

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Re: Legal Muzzleloaders - Help with a Shortlist
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2009, 04:12:55 PM »
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Re: Legal Muzzleloaders - Help with a Shortlist
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2009, 04:23:57 PM »
the elkhorn does, but you have to call bpi and get the different breech plug, can't shoot 209 primers. go to cva website, look for the link to click to order parts. you have to call. call black powder industries, tell them what gun you have and what you need and they will send it to you.
the cva bolthunter is legal too
t/c black diamond
knight bighorn
remington 700ml
savage 10ml
to name a few others.
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Re: Legal Muzzleloaders - Help with a Shortlist
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2009, 05:59:10 PM »
Also, you might check out the Northwest Edition of the Traditions Pursuit.  They started making this version last year and it is a nice alternative to the bolt-action varieties.

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Re: Legal Muzzleloaders - Help with a Shortlist
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2009, 09:09:55 PM »
The cva elkhorn has the proper breech in the box.  It also has your choice of #11 or musket nipple.  I have a T/C Black Diamond, but because they aren't made anymore I recommend the Knight Big Horn.  Stainless steel, and an adjustable trigger.  It also comes with a couple different breech plugs, and your choice of nipple.  They're about $100 more than the CVA though.  Knight also make a kit with the Wolverine, but it's not the quality of the Big Horn.  Traditions is making a break action gun that is legal, but there has been some trouble with ignition, so I don't recommend them. 
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Re: Legal Muzzleloaders - Help with a Shortlist
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2009, 04:56:51 PM »
I think sportsmans here in Vancouver changed it to only sell Smokepolls that are legal in WA atleast they did awhile back but they seem to know what they are talking about at times. not sure if the other stores here in WA have done that.

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Re: Legal Muzzleloaders - Help with a Shortlist
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2009, 09:28:37 PM »
Traditions is making a break action gun that is legal, but there has been some trouble with ignition, so I don't recommend them. 

Can you tell me anything you know about this. My cousin is having the same problem with his. Just curious to know any thing you know.
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Re: Legal Muzzleloaders - Help with a Shortlist
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2009, 07:42:06 AM »
The gun was originally made to use the 209 ignition system.  When Traditions converted the gun they didn't change the hammer, and it doesn't hit the cap properly.  You usually have to make 2 or 3 attempts on the same cap before it will fire.  Traditions is aware of the problem, and may have fixed it on the newer models. :dunno:
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Re: Legal Muzzleloaders - Help with a Shortlist
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2009, 04:33:12 PM »
That's exactly whats happening with my cousin's gun. Do you know of anything that you can do to fix the problem, or will Tradition's fix it?
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Re: Legal Muzzleloaders - Help with a Shortlist
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2009, 06:38:50 PM »
Send it back to Traditions.  It's not considered a firearm, so you don't need a FFL to ship it.
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Re: Legal Muzzleloaders - Help with a Shortlist
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2009, 09:36:58 PM »
I shoot a Knight bighorn while my brother shoots a CVA elkhorn.  The Knight costs about $100 more (little nicer barrel) and I must say that both work well in the field.   

 


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