South Puget Sound Saltwater Duck Hunters

[road.kill]

I would guess it could be a case where these homeowners bought beach front property, put a big house on it, and now every saturday morning its a reenactment of WWII outside their front window.

The water is open to free use, as long as the hunters arent shooting at the houses or doing anything illegal, the use of that water should not be restricted.

I view these homeowners the same as the people who buy houses next to an airport and then complain about airplane noise and try to get the airport to close down because it interupts their lifestyle.

I dont think it should even be an issue, but we know that the fish and wildlife dept in our state love to accomodate the non-hunters and make them feel more at home.

[billythekidrock]

I don't think it has to do with non-hunters. I think it has to do with hunters following the rules and also educating the public on what those rules are.

When I watched this meeting I did not get the vibe that this guy was against hunting but he was against needless killing.

[singleshot12]

 
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[The water is open to free use, as long as the hunters arent shooting at the houses or doing anything illegal, the use of that water should not be restricted.]

Not if the property owner owns tideland's. Hunters cannot even drop boat anchor within private tideland's.
They can drift in the water,but I think in most bays it is illegal to drift and shoot birds.

[sisu]

Where did you guys see that these hunters were doing anything wrong

We don't know if the statement about shooting "crows and seagulls" is true or not. Besides, crows are legal to shoot during duck season. So if these hunters are simply hunting ducks in a public area, then they are within the law and should have our support. Whoever they are. 

First: The statement would have already brought in the Federal guys and the game warden. I would bet the entire statement is fabricated. Seagulls is what I am commenting on.



Secondly, NON-LOCAL hunters from Marysville. Last time I checked Marysville is part of Washington and part of the United States of America, so they have a right not a privilege to hunt where the hell they want to as long as all is legal.
Thirdly, some of you were very quick to jump on the "slob hunter" band wagon without any information that was factual. Hey, back up the  hunter before you back up the non-substantiated statements from people that are obviously against hunting. And I don't give a rats ass about the "for the table" comment. That does not tell me the guy is pro hunting.

This entire media generated "forum" is just like the crap that ranchers and dog trainers put up with in Bozeman, Montana once the "beautiful" people moved in. Blatant lies to get the undesirables out of town, a town I might add that the original people build with sweat and blood.

So before you go siding with the "media and landowner" lets get more facts and if possible law enforcement reports otherwise all this is is hear say and gossip mongering to get rid of hunting.

[bobcat]

 

Good post.

[300UltraMagShooter]

Good post.

+1

[billythekidrock]

Having seen these to televised meetings I got two different vibes off of the two speakers. One didn't like the shooting or hunting and the other was concerned about waste and killing of protected birds.

It also sounded like it could have been a depredation type situation to protect the shellfish beds. 

All I know is that it is likely to continue and I thought the duck hunters should keep their ears open and to monitor their own.

[road.kill]

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[The water is open to free use, as long as the hunters arent shooting at the houses or doing anything illegal, the use of that water should not be restricted.]

Not if the property owner owns tideland's. Hunters cannot even drop boat anchor within private tideland's.
They can drift in the water,but I think in most bays it is illegal to drift and shoot birds.

Sorry, I wasnt aware of that fact. Thanks for the info, you learn something new everyday

[sisu]

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[The water is open to free use, as long as the hunters arent shooting at the houses or doing anything illegal, the use of that water should not be restricted.]

Not if the property owner owns tideland's. Hunters cannot even drop boat anchor within private tideland's.
They can drift in the water,but I think in most bays it is illegal to drift and shoot birds.

Sorry, I wasnt aware of that fact. Thanks for the info, you learn something new everyday

I don't know about drifting and shooting being illegal as long as the drift is wind or current driven a hunter should be golden. It's when the drift is a continuation of a power driven vessel that the drift becomes illegal. I don't know how a "bay or inlet" can be written up different from the general rules of the road for water fowl hunting.

BTW what is the defination of private tide lands? How far down and how far up is a "private tide land"?

[ck]

"I don't know about drifting and shooting being illegal as long as the drift is wind or current driven a hunter should be golden. It's when the drift is a continuation of a power driven vessel that the drift becomes illegal. I don't know how a "bay or inlet" can be written up different from the general rules of the road for water fowl hunting.

BTW what is the defination of private tide lands? How far down and how far up is a "private tide land"?"

WAC 232-16-760 Northern Puget Sound
Hunting Method Restriction. It is unlawful
to hunt waterfowl, coot, or snipe from
a moving boat or any free-floating device
that is not in a fixed position which is either
anchored or secured to shore in Port Susan
Bay, Skagit Bay, Padilla Bay, and Samish Bay.


 

[singleshot12]

BTW what is the defination of private tide lands? How far down and how far up is a "private tide land"?


Private tide land can be owned from the high tide mark to as low as the low tide mark.

[road.kill]

So that tells me that legally if you have a cripple out in lets say, Skagit Bay for example, that you cannot take a boat out and finish the bird off from the boat?  Im not sure if you would get written up just for that considering you were attempting to get a downed bird, but by reading that definition I would say it is actually illegal?

[redjeepgirl]

Sounds like they should have stuck with geoduck...

[billythekidrock]

Sounds like they should have stuck with geoduck...

Now that's funny...

[sisu]

"I don't know about drifting and shooting being illegal as long as the drift is wind or current driven a hunter should be golden. It's when the drift is a continuation of a power driven vessel that the drift becomes illegal. I don't know how a "bay or inlet" can be written up different from the general rules of the road for water fowl hunting.

BTW what is the definition of private tide lands? How far down and how far up is a "private tide land"?"

WAC 232-16-760 Northern Puget Sound
Hunting Method Restriction. It is unlawful
to hunt waterfowl, coot, or snipe from
a moving boat or any free-floating device
that is not in a fixed position which is either
anchored or secured to shore in Port Susan
Bay, Skagit Bay, Padilla Bay, and Samish Bay.


 

Thanks for the post.
So now lets look at this nice little tidbit. Can't anchor on private tide lands and can't drift so can't hunt but no one has out right stated that you can't hunt there.

Isn't this a crock of CRAP! If we can stop them from hunting lets make a series of laws that makes it impossible to hunt. You gotta love the antis don't you.

If laws like this can be made for other types of  hunting and fishing then the antis have won without firing a shot.

Lets see: can't drift fish or troll in said bays etc, but can't anchor because they are private tide lands.

Next: can't utilize Federally build highways to access hunting areas if ammo and firearms are carried in same vehicle.

Call me crazy but what a great approach to making things more and more difficult.