moose 10 pts or less?

[KFhunter]

but then there's Jackalope with his 8 pts and the hunt of a lifetime coming in a couple short weeks

[Falcon]

About half of my hunting buddies who have faithfully put
In for moose each year have drawn.  If you put down 4 choices
And do your research on units that aren't legendary your chances
Go up quite a bit.   Moose permits are quite a bit easier than sheep and
Goat.   Those 2 are getting extremely hard to draw

[TriggerMike]

My dad is one of about 4 people who has put in every year since the point system started and still not drawn(any moose)


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Only 4 people? I think there's a whole lot more people than that who have been applying for moose since the point system started and haven't drawn. I'm thinking maybe more like 4 hundred people.

I thought that data was interesting, so I looked at what they showed for other categories. Across the board, the summaries show top-points applicants as drawing at a very low rate.

But at first glance, some of the numbers don't jibe 100%.
On the summary for antlerless deer, for example, here: http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2016.php (don't now how to post the screen shot) shows 1 unsuccessful applicant with 21 points, another with 20 points, and 3 more with 19 points (all unsuccessful).

While it seems somewhat unlikely to not draw an antlerless deer permit with over 20 points (much less unlikely than for moose, imo), things get confusing when I look at the pfd by-hunt-breakdown of applicants here http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2016category_points_antlerlessdeer.pdf
This report lists NO applicants with either 20 or 21 applying for any hunts, and it only lists 1 of the 3 with 19 points as applying unsuccessfully. I looked several times and I don't think I overlooked them.

The summary results for 2nd deer are even more confusing. It shows the overall rate of drawing (all tags divided by all apps) as 1:3.39.  Apps with 1 point drew at a rate of 1:3.87, while the top points apps (>12 pts) drew at a 1:40 rate. This makes no mathematical sense to me.

I'm not saying the results from moose are the same (I will look at that in more detail when I have time), but if it is- something is up  with those discrepancies. There could be a logical reason- like the summary includes points options and has them listed as unsuccessful- or it includes them as individual applicants who applied as a group. Or it could be the numbers are off somehow 

Just thought it was interesting...

Do they still post this data every year on the wdfw website? I can't find it.

[TriggerMike]

Max points right now is 22, and the data posted was from the previous year, so it looks like there are 310 people with "max points."

Bob,

Where did you find this data at? I can't find it on the website anymore but I'm assuming they still publish it?

[HereDuckyDucky]

My wife draw Bull Moose with 5 points back in 2019.

RW

[builtfordtough]

Exactly, points don't me a damn thing... I've drawn quality elk with 3 pts and 11 pts.  Buddy drew moose in 2023 with 12.  I have 22. Doesnt mean ill ever get drawn. But I'm invested until I move out of this state in 9 yrs.   

[boneaddict]

Idabooner died with a pile of points, so once in a lifetime might also mean Never in this lifetime.   

[Ridgerunner]

Max points right now is 22, and the data posted was from the previous year, so it looks like there are 310 people with "max points."

Bob,

Where did you find this data at? I can't find it on the website anymore but I'm assuming they still publish it?

They haven't published this data for at least two years, super frustrating. 

[Ghost Hunter]

   25 points in all the OIL's.  Thinking I'll give up on sheep and goat after this year.  Not ready to quit on moose yet, I'm in four categories now not including raffles.  Keep the dream alive.   

[kentrek]

How do they have a choice to not publish?? Couldn't it be requested?

[Antlershed]

How do they have a choice to not publish?? Couldn't it be requested?

From the website….

[BigCutty3]

They don’t really want you to know the info.  You could probably get it with a FOIA request but it would likely take a “longtime” for them to provide it to you.  Evidently not enough employees or computers in the agency to track this anymore, lol.  Both are at all time highs. 

[wheels1]

How ab16 or 17

[TeacherMan]

I have 19 points and stopped applying 🤷🏻‍♂️😂 living in Idaho now I just don’t see the need to donate to the blue…

[wheels1]

Wish I  could lol I would even nr for id at this rzte