I don't think the actual hunters are on here for both bucks....however I know the son to the 'flemen buck' is...I will let him tell the story... The story is cool to hear because of how the two hunters, and son, met and helped each other. Just a cool sportsman attitude in helping each other in the field, one very experienced and the other not a lot of time hunting mulies, but both coming out with tremendous bucks. I'm sure the son will see this post, and because they aren't my kills I will let him post something if he chooses.